[Xmca-l] Re: Crises and stages/ages

Huw Lloyd huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
Fri Mar 20 06:12:14 PDT 2015


The problem is distinguishing between the actual transformation, rather a
change in clothing.  Treating a change in clothing or role as a proxy for
development is ok so long as you persist in remembering that this is a
proxy for development and not a definition of it.

Huw

On 20 March 2015 at 13:00, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> I have many times experienced a fellow worker with no special talent, once
> elected as a shop steward, in a short space of time, become a competent
> leader. Equally, I have seen many newly appointed managers make exceptions
> to Peter's Principle and suddenly respond to the new way they are treated
> by their once-fellow workers, and take on a professional leadership role.
> Often, the reverse happens, but we all see these as some kind of failure
> of development, a mismatch.
> I don't see the problem, Huw. :)
>
> Andy
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> *Andy Blunden*
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> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>
>> Sure, but those transitions, in themselves, do not necessarily implicate a
>> change in the structuring of consciousness, cognition or manner of
>> activity.  That's particularly so of changes in the roles and
>> responsibilities of adults.  Once one is sufficiently adapted to one's
>> environment, it takes deliberate intention to change one's mode of
>> conduct.  Hence Simon's referencing the capacity for adaptation.
>>
>> Huw
>>
>>
>> On 20 March 2015 at 12:22, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
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>>> Sticking to child development for the moment .... a child is born
>>> physically, biologically, emotionally, psychologically, intellectually
>>> and
>>> socially dependent on their family (or whomever).
>>> In something like 90% of cases, by the time they're in their 20s, they
>>> are
>>> working, voting, householders in their own right. No matter how many
>>> people
>>> never get a job, raise a family or learn to tell the difference between
>>> a
>>> used car salesman and a statesman, this process is normal, the passage
>>> through a series of culturally defined social positions in which the
>>> given
>>> individual more or less adequately fulfils the social expectations.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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