[Xmca-l] Re: Messages on XMCA

[Luisa Aires]

Dear Mike

You are absolutely right when you say “When I see the word "rural" in
Luisa's note my first thought is -- how will the students get there and be
involved? Without those reciprocal relations of exchange (a term I learned
from Olga that seems appropriate to such projects), costs of such an
undertaking are too great”.

As UAb (Universidade Aberta) is a distance teaching university, our
students are living in rural and urban territories. However, they  are
working people and they do not have much time to a project like this one.
In the exploratory research we have been doing, we had the participation of
UAb Local learning centers network coordinators and local municipal agents.
And this is a very interesting way we are going to explore because
reciprocal relations of exchange may occur. In what concerns students’
participation, I am optimistic, it is a question of time and motivation
that may be changed if the project becomes more and more grounded.

Thank you for the reference. I am going to read Deborah’s article.

Best,

Luísa


On 6 October 2013 17:33, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> Luisa and anyone contemplating some version of the out-of-school research
> effort such as
> the 5thD or LCM. In each case, these efforts rest on actual involvement of
> a university faculty member who is permitted to offer a theory/practice
> course that keeps a steady stream of
> students involving themselves in community-based, participatory,
> engagement.
>
> When I see the word "rural" in Luisa's note my first thought is -- how will
> the students get there and be involved? Without those reciprocal relations
> of exchange (a term I learned from Olga that seems appropriate to such
> projects), costs of such an undertaking are too great.
>
> Also, there is a quite successful 5thD innovation started many years ago at
> San Diego State U
> and now run by Deborah Poole, that is NOT focused on new digital
> technologies at all. Some
> use of such technologies is helpful and maybe necessary for purposes of
> inter and intra institutional communication, but not for creating
> development enhancing settings where
> undergrads and local youth are jointly involved.
>
> mike
>
> PS- Deborah has an article about her site in MCA
> : Mind, Culture, and
> Activity<http://65.54.113.26/Journal/15982/mind-culture-and-activity>
>  , vol. 18, no. 3, pp. 216-236, 2011
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Greg
> > There are several constraints and I would like to point out:
> > 1- Lack of funding.
> > 2- The difficulty to bring together students, universities, companies,
> > local authorities around a common goal: to participate in social
> inclusion
> > processes with digital media.
> > 3- A kind of a (political) demonization of education to digital
> > participation, after a strong investment (in the country) in the access
> to
> > digital artifacts.
> >
> > Best,
> > Luísa
> >
> >
> > On 6 October 2013 16:30, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Luisa,
> > > Could you say more about the "but it's hard" part of your comment?
> > > Wondering what kinds of challenges you are up against in developing a
> > > 5D/clase magica-like program in the north of Portugal.
> > > -greg
> > > p.s. apologies for my lack of diacritics!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > “Mediation through artifacts” opened me the way to interpret adult
> > > learning
> > > > and mediated action with television, almost twenty years ago. Right
> > now I
> > > > am trying to analyze learning with digital media - locally situated
> > > > literacies within local cultures. I am trying to "push" a program
> like
> > > > Cole’s Fifth Dimension, Vasquez’s “La clase mágica”, in rural
> > territories
> > > > in the north of Portugal, but it’s hard ;-)
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Luísa Aires, Ph.D.
> > > > Department of Education and Distance Learning
> > > > Universidade Aberta (Portugal)
> > > >
> > > > On 5 October 2013 18:35, Elizabeth Hadley Nickrenz <
> > > nickrenz@uchicago.edu
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Right now I am busiest with the start of my Introduction to Human
> > > > > Development course, looking back on rough spots from last year and
> > > trying
> > > > > to figure out how to fine-tune and improve them. Which reminds me,
> I
> > > had
> > > > a
> > > > > question I wanted to ask you all. Does anyone have any examples of
> > > > > "mediation through artifacts" and/or  "practical activity" that
> they
> > > have
> > > > > found particularly helpful in illustrating these concepts for
> > > > > undergraduates?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Elizabeth Fein, Ph.D.
> > > > > Department of Comparative Human Development
> > > > > University of Chicago
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [
> > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > > ]
> > > > > on behalf of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:01 PM
> > > > > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu; eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
> > > > > Cc: Bruce Jones
> > > > > Subject: [Xmca-l]  Messages on XMCA
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce is asking about absence of email on xmca. I have sent a
> couple
> > of
> > > > > message, but of course do not
> > > > > see them except later on the accumulated list.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's new? There sure are a lot of you out there. Hit  reply and
> say
> > > > > something about what you
> > > > > are working on or wondering about.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, I have been fussing over vocabulary confusions in a
> > course
> > > > > that I visit in Colorado taught by
> > > > > Kris G.  Learning, development, practice, zoped, social situation
> of
> > > > > development, context...... how are they related in Vygotky's
> theor??
> > > > Simple
> > > > > questions like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > And you??
> > > > > mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > > Visiting Assistant Professor
> > > Department of Anthropology
> > > 883 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > > Brigham Young University
> > > Provo, UT 84602
> > > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> > R.Amial, nº 752
> > 4200-055 Porto
> > laires@uab.pt
> >
>



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