[Xmca-l] Re: Messages on XMCA

[mike cole]

Luisa and anyone contemplating some version of the out-of-school research
effort such as
the 5thD or LCM. In each case, these efforts rest on actual involvement of
a university faculty member who is permitted to offer a theory/practice
course that keeps a steady stream of
students involving themselves in community-based, participatory,
engagement.

When I see the word "rural" in Luisa's note my first thought is -- how will
the students get there and be involved? Without those reciprocal relations
of exchange (a term I learned from Olga that seems appropriate to such
projects), costs of such an undertaking are too great.

Also, there is a quite successful 5thD innovation started many years ago at
San Diego State U
and now run by Deborah Poole, that is NOT focused on new digital
technologies at all. Some
use of such technologies is helpful and maybe necessary for purposes of
inter and intra institutional communication, but not for creating
development enhancing settings where
undergrads and local youth are jointly involved.

mike

PS- Deborah has an article about her site in MCA
: Mind, Culture, and
Activity<http://65.54.113.26/Journal/15982/mind-culture-and-activity>
 , vol. 18, no. 3, pp. 216-236, 2011


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Greg
> There are several constraints and I would like to point out:
> 1- Lack of funding.
> 2- The difficulty to bring together students, universities, companies,
> local authorities around a common goal: to participate in social inclusion
> processes with digital media.
> 3- A kind of a (political) demonization of education to digital
> participation, after a strong investment (in the country) in the access to
> digital artifacts.
>
> Best,
> Luísa
>
>
> On 6 October 2013 16:30, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Luisa,
> > Could you say more about the "but it's hard" part of your comment?
> > Wondering what kinds of challenges you are up against in developing a
> > 5D/clase magica-like program in the north of Portugal.
> > -greg
> > p.s. apologies for my lack of diacritics!
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > “Mediation through artifacts” opened me the way to interpret adult
> > learning
> > > and mediated action with television, almost twenty years ago. Right
> now I
> > > am trying to analyze learning with digital media - locally situated
> > > literacies within local cultures. I am trying to "push" a program like
> > > Cole’s Fifth Dimension, Vasquez’s “La clase mágica”, in rural
> territories
> > > in the north of Portugal, but it’s hard ;-)
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Luísa Aires, Ph.D.
> > > Department of Education and Distance Learning
> > > Universidade Aberta (Portugal)
> > >
> > > On 5 October 2013 18:35, Elizabeth Hadley Nickrenz <
> > nickrenz@uchicago.edu
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right now I am busiest with the start of my Introduction to Human
> > > > Development course, looking back on rough spots from last year and
> > trying
> > > > to figure out how to fine-tune and improve them. Which reminds me, I
> > had
> > > a
> > > > question I wanted to ask you all. Does anyone have any examples of
> > > > "mediation through artifacts" and/or  "practical activity" that they
> > have
> > > > found particularly helpful in illustrating these concepts for
> > > > undergraduates?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Elizabeth Fein, Ph.D.
> > > > Department of Comparative Human Development
> > > > University of Chicago
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [
> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > ]
> > > > on behalf of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:01 PM
> > > > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu; eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
> > > > Cc: Bruce Jones
> > > > Subject: [Xmca-l]  Messages on XMCA
> > > >
> > > > Bruce is asking about absence of email on xmca. I have sent a couple
> of
> > > > message, but of course do not
> > > > see them except later on the accumulated list.
> > > >
> > > > What's new? There sure are a lot of you out there. Hit  reply and say
> > > > something about what you
> > > > are working on or wondering about.
> > > >
> > > > For example, I have been fussing over vocabulary confusions in a
> course
> > > > that I visit in Colorado taught by
> > > > Kris G.  Learning, development, practice, zoped, social situation of
> > > > development, context...... how are they related in Vygotky's theor??
> > > Simple
> > > > questions like that.
> > > >
> > > > And you??
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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