Re: [xmca] University & Conformity

From: David Preiss <davidpreiss who-is-at>
Date: Tue May 27 2008 - 21:27:02 PDT

Hi Andy,

Any chance you could elaborate more about this "new liberal arts
degree" idea? Sounds like it suggests more than what can be inferred
from your post,


On May 27, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Andy Jocuns wrote:

> Hope I am not replying to this one too late, but Mike's
> observations really
> strike a chord with me. Particularily observation #1 which sums up my
> undergrad experience @ Penn State. I have to say that I feel like I
> did not
> learn how to learn until I got grad school. Yeah there were things
> that
> interested me that I retained for my own purposes but the
> assessments in
> general were pretty bad. My lack of interest in memorizing random
> tidbits of
> a textbook reminded me too much of basic training, which when i was
> undergrad i was trying to forget. Sadly I remember more from my
> military
> experience -- though that's a different story.
> Right now I am on a project which is studying engineering
> undergrads, and I
> am often struck by how engineering educators suggest that an
> engineering
> degree is the "new liberal arts degree". There seems to be a few
> meanings
> attached to this phrase, but it gets under my skin how much the
> "old liberal
> arts degree" means little of anything anymore. In order to do
> anything with
> such a degree, you need to have some graduate degree. So how and
> when did
> the bachelor's degree become so proletarian? It seems you can say
> the same
> about a master's degree as well now.
> andy
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