Re: [xmca] second nature

From: maria judith <mariasucupiralins who-is-at terra.com.br>
Date: Fri Oct 12 2007 - 05:38:09 PDT

I will find the source and give you.
Aquinas goes far than Aristotle's definition.
it is not only the acquired habits as behavior psychology says,
it is a new person.
it is important to remember that Aquinas has his own theory.
maria

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Blunden" <ablunden@mira.net>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Re: [xmca] second nature

According to "Aquinas and Empowerment: Classical Ethics for Ordinary Lives"
By G. Simon Harak, Aquinas used the term in the same sense as Aristotle,
i.e., as acquired habits. Can you give me a source Maria?

Andy

At 08:55 AM 12/10/2007 -0300, you wrote:
>Andy
>Thomas Aquin created this expression "second nature" not only for
>the world of artefacts, but for human being in the world of artefacts,
>the new human being that emerges from cultural social activities who is not
>anymore simply the human being from the point of view of nature.
>maria
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Blunden" <ablunden@mira.net>
>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:12 AM
>Subject: [xmca] second nature
>
>
> > Anyone have an answer to this one?
> >
> > I sometimes use the term "second nature" to mean the world of artefacts,
>in
> > contrast to the "first nature" the world of things existing before and
> > outside human civilisation. I am interested in where this usage comes
>from.
> > According to the Oxford English Dictionary Online, the use of "second
> > nature" to mean habits and other aspects of the human character which
are
> > developed during our life through participation in activity dates back
to
> > Aristotle, but they record no-one using the term in the way I use it. I
>see
> > that Hegel only used the expression in the sense of acquired habits. Max
> > Stirner appears to be the one, much to my surprise, who started
referring
> > to culture as a "second Nature" but who knows what "culture" meant to
the
> > author of "The Ego and his Own"? Marx in the 1844 manuscripts goes so
far
> > as to refer to human needs which are "second nature" and it would seem
> > consistent with his idea that he should ascribe "second nature" to the
> > objectification of those new human needs in the world of artefacts. I do
> > not feel I am "betraying" Marx in using the term in that way, but so far
>as
> > I can see Marx and Engels never use it that way themselves.
> >
> > Any ideas on who first called the world of material culture our "second
> > nature" (as opposed to civilised habits)? Was it one of those American
> > Pragmatists or Benjamin Franklin or someone?
> >
> > Andy
> >
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