Re: enculturation/instruction

From: David H Kirshner (dkirsh@lsu.edu)
Date: Sat Feb 23 2002 - 11:54:48 PST


Eric asked:
David,
Aren't assessment and accountability both sides of the same coin? Shouldn't
the same methodology that assesses a student is grasping concepts and
applying those concepts the same methodology that tells the teacher they
are providing effective instruction?

Eric,
In the (rather skewed) way we've come to use these terms, accountability is
related to contractual, legal, and ethical obligations of the teacher to
the student in assigning grades that enter into the public record and
impact the students' future options. Assessment is related to the grasp a
teacher has on the progress of students as a guide to evaluating her or his
own teaching. Obviously the two are related, but constrained by very
different purposes and obligations.
David
PS. Perhaps we're better off chatting off-line to sort out our purposes and
terms.

                                                                                              
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In a message dated 2/23/2002 4:56:03 AM Central Standard Time,
dkirsh@lsu.edu writes:

Eric,
I'm not sure what interests are driving your querries. It seems like your
questions are about assessment, but your interest is in accountability.

David,
Aren't assessment and accountability both sides of the same coin? Shouldn't
the same methodology that assesses a student is grasping concepts and
applying those concepts the same methodology that tells the teacher they
are providing effective instruction?

As i understand crossdisciplinarity in your paper to suggest is that
regardless of discipline for constructing curriculum the bottom line is
insuring that instruction matches concepts acquired by the student.

Eric



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