Re: 'Discerned' and 'Recognizes' in Leontjev

Pentti Hakkarainen (phakkara who-is-at cc.jyu.fi)
Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:27:28 +0200

>Arne,
I think I failed to make clear in my previous note what I was after, but
you are on the right track here. We are exploring the thesis that
Leontjev, like Heidegger and Dewey, maintained a model in which breakdown
induces a form of reflective practice. Thank you for providing the German
translation, which like the second English translation seems to support our
thesis. (Would you consider "deren Realisierung" to translate in this
situation to something like "recognition" or "register in conscious
awareness"?

>I would be most interested to hear from one of the Russian scholars out
>there whether the original text also supported this view. ---Tim

Hi Tim,

I am not a Russian scholar, but translated long ago this text into Finnish
and have the Russian original. It says:
"Tak, v hode dostizeniya vydelyavshseisya obshei tseli mozet
proishodit=B4 vydelenie promezutocnyh tselei, v rezultate cego
tselostnoe deistvie drobitsya na ryad otdelnyh posledovatelnyh
deistvii; eto osobenno harakterno dlya slucayev, kogda deistvie
protekaet v usloviyah, zatrudnyayushih ego vypolnenie s pomoshs=B4yu
uze sformirovavshsihsya operatsii."

If I understand the context correctly I would not draw the same
conclusions as Tim. I read the original in technical terms: how an activity
is carried out in actions and how these action units are divided into
a chain of smaller actions or bigger molar units. This fluctuation
of the unit size happens according to Leont=E9v on the level of
psychic representations or schemes, too. I think it is not possible to
read in this part of the text on reflection. Leont=B4ev talks about
difficulties in carrying out actions by using the developed operations.

I think it would be necessary to consider the relevance of motive/goal
discrepancy as a source reflective practice. Leont=B4ev deals with this
problem a lot.

Pentti

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