On 10 August 2013 15:12, Andy Blunden <firstname.lastname@example.org
Well Huw, I didn't mean to introduce a diversion by taking
computers as an example. I could have taken a stone tool just as well.
It seems, Huw, that in responding to my challenge you have made a
start at developing a theory of human needs.
'fraid not. Simply asking the question.
Viz., that there are certain "vital" needs, and all other "needs"
are merely means to meet these vital needs. I don't imagine that I
am going to be able to refute the claims for a theory of human
needs in a single message, it is after simply the claim for the
existence of human nature - a concept with a very long history!
(Aristotle built his theory of biology on the basis of a theory of
needs.) But "vital" human needs are very elastic and other than in
very general terms are quite indefinable. But as we change our
world, what you need to live in that world are very real and very
specific, and those needs arise directly out of participation in
that life-world. Which of the thousand different ways that there
are to meet the "vital" need of, say, nutrition, becomes a real
need for a person, is determined by the cultural context of a
person's life and their activity.
But these "real needs" are known needs. Which Leontyev calls motives,
does he not?
So I prefer Activity Theory, in which needs are the product of
activity, while, as conceived in any given activity, they provide
the motive for that activity.
So it seems that we do not know whether needs are produced, or whether
they are exposed. Did Leontyev make such a distinction?
Huw Lloyd wrote:
On 9 August 2013 14:57, Andy Blunden <email@example.com
I don't have any doubt that needs are produced. 25 years
ago no-one needed
a computer. Now it seems that everyone needs them. I don't
see you r
objection to this, Huw?
Well, if you consider needs as primal (vital) such things as
the languages people speak are simply ways to meet such needs.
>From a Marxian social perspective computing is interesting in
in that the needs met by the first generation workers is
different to the management saturated situation we have now.
i.e. on the
cusp of technological practice workers are more free from the