Re: [xmca] Reifications and Amalgams

From: Tony Whitson <twhitson who-is-at UDel.Edu>
Date: Tue May 22 2007 - 10:59:59 PDT

David,
   I should have added that you're right, of course, that signs are not
consumed in their interpretation. It's more like they are fulfilled,
ontologically, in all the further sign-activity in which they are
interpreted.

On Tue, 22 May 2007, Tony Whitson wrote:

> David,
> Thanks for sharing your concerns in a timely manner, when it's not too late
> for others to take your observations into account. It might not be such a bad
> thing to have some discussion of the choices in advance of making the
> decision.
> As for the point itself: Peirce noted that "we think only in signs." It
> follows that we can understand development of thought as a development of
> sign-activity. There's been discussion on this list of how to differentiate
> between "signs" and "tools" -- within the constraints of LSV's conceptions of
> things as "signs" or "tools."
> Peirce conceived of signs as triadic relations whose essential quality was
> their capacity for generating further triadic relations (i.e., further
> signs). I think it follows that anything participating in sign-relations
> might also participate in tool-relations, whether tool-relations are
> conceived as a species of sign-relation, or differentiated from signs in some
> way.
>
>> Once again, I protest against the facile phrase "schooling emphasizes the
>> production and consumption of symbolic texts". Texts are not consumed when
>> we read them. This is yet another important difference between a tool and
>> a
>> thought, and it is clear evidence that a text is rather closer to the
>> latter than the former. It seems to me that the purpose of this particular
>> "toolforthought" is to avoid thought, once again by appealing to a
>> "higher"
>> whole, in this case a sloppy, moralizing amalgam of schooling with
>> capitalist production.
>>
>> David Kellogg
>> Seoul National University of Education
>>
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> Tony Whitson
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Tony Whitson
UD School of Education
NEWARK DE 19716

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