bb-- it sure would be nice to be able to stand shoulder to shoulder. too
much rich stuff
here to respond to properly among local demands. weekend beckons from afar.
mike
On 3/14/06, bb <xmca-whoever@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Elina, we seem to agree that cultural meanings are not uniform, but, among
> other things, are activity specific. For example, the meaning shared
> among
> physicists for the word "momentum" means something very different than it
> does the athletic team coach and players on a winning streak, and even
> then,
> among physicists, "momentum" functionally depends upon whether one is
> doing
> classical physics, quantum mechanics, or special relativity, each with
> it's
> own mathematical definition and methods, the lexicon and grammar of
> physics.
>
> In a spin on an activity theoretic perspective; culture, social practice,
> and
> "the countinuity of experience of human association" are mutual
> constitutive.
> If one makes this spin, it's difficult to parse the distinctions you have
> made between Dewey and Vygotsky. It's not even clear it's necessary if
> one
> wishes to stand on their shoulders, rather than stand between them.
>
> bb
>
>
> On Tuesday 14 March 2006 4:00 pm, Elina Lampert-Shepel wrote:
> > About re-discovering the wheels...:-) Do wheels change when they
> > become a part of different vehicles? Correct me if I am wrong, but
> > I thought that for Vygotsky meanings were cultural and discovered
> > and transformed in the course of human activity while for Dewey
> > they are social and embedded in the countinuity of experience of
> > human association, and are created. Anyway, do we discover or
> > create meanings in joint mediated activity?
> > Elina
> >
> > Quoting bb <xmca-whoever@comcast.net>:
> > > On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:12 am, Mike Cole wrote:
> > > > "Things gain meaning by being used in a shared experience or
> > >
> > > joint
> > >
> > > > action." - John Dewey
> > >
> > > Re-discovery naught. Now I appreciate Dewey, but it's a nice
> > > quote because it
> > > is such an over-generalization that it applies to every thing,
> > > everyone, and
> > > everywhere. Of this kind of statement, Bierce wrote "A thought
> > > that snores in
> > > words that smoke."
> > >
> > > bb
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> > I have on my table a violin string. It is free. I twist one end of
> > it and it responds. It is free. But it is not free to do what a
> > violin string is supposed to do - to produce music. So I take it,
> > fix it in my violin and tighten it until it is taut. Only then it
> > is free to be a violin string.
> > Sir Rabindranath Tagore.
> >
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