RE: improv

From: Judith Vera Diamondstone (JDiamondstone@Clarku.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2003 - 06:03:02 PDT


Hi Eugene and Ana. Thank you, Ana, for playing devil's advocate in such a
useful way. And thanks, Eugene, for your helpful elaboration of a
dialogical/monological matrix.
 
I was going to play devil's advocate, too, but I'm glad to have waited. Now
I can just raise the point (mucky up the previous points), in my own
unfinalized way, which is in reference to eugene's last statement on his
previous email (certainly not his last!):

 PS My preliminary research of my students' postings about LACC kids show
that they almost exclusively objectivized and finalized LACC children in
their discourse on the class web while the instructor was trying to
subjectivized and problematized. However, the students subjectivize and
problematize themselves and some other third-person narratives.

I think you are objectivizing here, but because you say your research is
preliminary, you haven't finalized your claim. Also, you are objectivizing
your students' postings but not necessarily your students .
Still I wonder if it is possible to objectivize someone's words without
objectivizing the speakers. Let's say you recognize that the saying is done
by someone whose point of view on the world you are not representing[. Then
it would be more in the spirit of subjectivizing your students to
contextualize their postings, dialogi[zing them by situating them in a
perspective on the world which is, presumably, unfolding; unfinalized..[Then
you would have to interview your students about whether the perceived
themselves to be objectivizing and why they were then... etc.
 
what do you think?
judy

 



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