yeah, Don, I know what you mean.... As I understand it, the difference
between production/consumption is precisely the object. Insofar as the
subject orients to an object, he or she is involved in productive activity.
In YE's model, it's easier, because the subject is collective, & in any
case, we define an activity in terms of its object. But at the level of
action, I think whatever we as individuals do is often (always?) both at
once, though the producers are not always the consumers within the same
system (certainly not in industrial activity!)
can you elaborate on Maturana with AT?
At 04:52 PM 5/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hmmmmm. Judy, this helps me identify one my puzzles. What is "produced"?
>What is "consumed"? Maybe it is the "exchange" metaphor that I don't
>understand. For my own thinking the notion of structural coupling (e.g.,
>Maturana) has been more helpful. Can you elaborate?
>
>djc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Judith Diamondstone [mailto:diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu]
>Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:27 PM
>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>Subject: Re: community vs. activity system
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>I've thought of "community" in AT as "community of reference" -- i.e., the
>backdrop against which 'relevance' emerges.
>
>The answer to Don's q:
>
>My confusion of community with the activity system is perhaps
>understandable since in this example (and in others, I imagine) XMCAites are
>a part of the community of those inspired by CHAT. The subject could, in
>another analysis, be what is here represented as the community. What would
>BE the community in that analysis, I wonder?
>
>would of course depend on Don's project more generally ('it depends') but
>could for instance be social theorists around the world.
>
>'community of reference' indexes for me the semiotic nature of processes of
>consumption -- the colletctive subject of xmca participants orient to one
>another as well as to a wider community/ies, whereas in 'production,'
>semiosis is instrumental: the subject orients to the obj.
>
>Judy
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