[Xmca-l] Re: Covid as World Perezhivanie?

[Helena Worthen]

Mike, I’m glad you’re watching “Servant of the People.”  There was also a good article in the New Yorker November 4 2019 about Zelensky and where he came from.

I think there are some other countries where comics have been elected.  

Meanwhile, here’s an article about Vietnam, which has reported “No deaths” from COVID 19, a figure that has people scratching their heads. I am on another list with people along a spectrum of Vietnam watchers and no one has been able to dispute that number.

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thenation.com/article/world/coronavirus-vietnam-quarantine-mobilization/__;!!Mih3wA!S_Ivkerl8HSFWPl9nl-uyvOmsYBGZjtzgxn0TompdJRQrZ_HMbCKX3z_LfbQGbWBZbbqoQ$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.thenation.com/article/world/coronavirus-vietnam-quarantine-mobilization/__;!!Mih3wA!S_Ivkerl8HSFWPl9nl-uyvOmsYBGZjtzgxn0TompdJRQrZ_HMbCKX3z_LfbQGbWBZbbqoQ$ >




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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:22 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> Greg- 
> 
> If there is a one right way to interpret the term, perezhivanie, I have no idea what it is.  The term is polysemic in Russian.  I would suggest that people
> check out the special issue of MCA devoted to this topic.  
> 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/23/4?nav=tocList__;!!Mih3wA!S_Ivkerl8HSFWPl9nl-uyvOmsYBGZjtzgxn0TompdJRQrZ_HMbCKX3z_LfbQGbX6ahk7WA$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/23/4?nav=tocList__;!!Mih3wA!Ru_LNDTIFaF00CT1DTghJDhyxqfkySan841wvZgdYM49ppRsG1vjLwlBvPz2Pw4$>  
> 
> These viewpoints are not exhaustive. 
> 
> The other night I was watching "Servant of the People"  created by Volodymir Zelensky on netflix. Absolutely amazing, funny, and very very political. The most outstanding case of life imitating art I have yet encountered.  In the program, which is in Russian with subtitles in English,  an irate father, irritated by his
> son's failure to grasp the nature of corruption in Ukraine tells him  "dont perezhvai"  in a manner that roughly translates as "don't get upset about it."  The example lacks the "pere"  suffix (the over again aspect) of re-experiencing an intense emotion/cognition. But this everyday meaning is used commonly.
> 
> To me, the idea of "world perezhivanie" points to the fact that we are all "living through a period of suffering" with lots of cognitions, but it for those still standing
> 20 years from now to reflect back on.  The crisis is just beginning. 
> 
> 
> my 2 kopeks
> mike
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:03 AM Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I'm wondering about Andy's suggestion that covid-19 is a (or maybe "is creating a"?) world perezhivanie. That seems a really rich suggestion but I'm not sure how many of us on the list really understand what he means by this.
> 
> Andy tends to just tell me to go read more and so I'm wondering if someone else might be willing to take a stab at explaining what he might mean.
> 
> Also, as a critical intervention, I am wondering whether covid-19 is the "same" for everyone. We have folks in the U.S. who think it is basically just a typical flu that has been turned into a political tool to attack the current president. Or does that not matter for perezhivanie?
> 
> (and just to be clear, my question is not whether or not this is true or right or beautiful to think this way; my question is whether or not this is how people are actually experiencing the world since I assume that this is what perezhivanie is supposed to be "getting at". Or am I misunderstanding perezhivanie?)
> 
> So is there really a shared perezhivanie here?
> (Is The Problem of Age the place to look for answers?)
> 
> But if no one wants to take this up (perhaps too much ink has been spilt over perezhivanie?), that's fine too.
> 
> Cheers,
> greg
> 
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