[Xmca-l] Re: Conceptual Models in CHI or Socio Technical Systems

Greg Mcverry jgregmcverry@gmail.com
Sun Mar 3 11:31:11 PST 2019


Peter,

Here is my initial attempts: https://jgregorymcverry.com/SyNatIndieWeb.html

I want to focus the model you shared at the the top system level.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:34 AM Greg Mcverry <jgregmcverry@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow this is great, I can't wait to dig in.
>
> Sharing some resources I found in my research
>
>
> https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/02/explaining-the-success-of-emerging-technologies-by-innovation-system-functioning
>
>
> https://repository.tudelft.nl/islandora/object/uuid:81b7a378-fe87-4a43-8f34-3134d5fa0433/datastream/OBJ/download
>
> It is all political and we believe the first step to restoring a people
> centric web is to start with one's own site. You can't understand how truth
> gets shaped online until you shape your own..
>
> I f anyone did wanted to get started and get a website up and running we
> run free events all the time. https://indieWeb.org/Events
>
> Once again thanks for the resources, now it has me thinking that tge
> learning as see isn't just cognitive apprenticeships but more agentive
> apprenticeships, learner driven goals mediated by both people and networks
> who share a common vision.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 5:48 PM peter jones <h2cmng@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello Greg and all,
>>
>> The points you raise below and in the (brief look) discussion suggests
>> you might consider as one idea / resource - Hodges' model (better described
>> as) a conceptual framework.
>>
>> Originally created in health care and education in mid-1980s with four
>> purposes:
>>
>>    1. Reflection and critical thinking;
>>    2. Person-centered care;
>>    3. Help bridge the theory - practice gap;
>>    4. Facilitate holistic care (physical, mental, social...).
>>
>>
>> Hodges' model is broad (like Activity Theory as per your note) but it is
>> also generic, universal, situated and actually 'generational' in that a
>> concept it is based upon is the 'health career'.
>>
>> This is NOT health jobs - professionalism (but can be - as a situation
>> and context) but refers to the idea of 'LIFE CHANCES'.
>>
>> With 'generations' and your aims and objectives there is far more
>> commonality...
>>
>> This concept and the model's structure gives rise to four knowledge
>> domains.
>>
>> Your references to brainstorming, illustration, framing, 'spaces' and
>> diagrams also 'fit'.
>>
>> There is a paper on the model's socio-technical applications:
>>
>> Jones, P. (2009) Socio-Technical Structures, the Scope of Informatics
>> and Hodges’ model
>> <https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1842543&rec=1&srcabs=886584&alg=7&pos=3>,
>> IN, Staudinger, R., Ostermann, H., Bettina Staudinger, B. (Eds.), Handbook
>> of Research in Nursing Informatics and Socio-Technical Structures, Idea
>> Group Publishing, Inc. Chap. 11, pp. 160-174.
>>
>> I have attended several events on socio-technical approaches.
>>
>> Additional papers are listed on the blog:
>>
>> http://hodges-model.blogspot.com/ <http://twitter.com/h2cm>
>> <http://twitter.com/h2cm>
>> The model can also be related (I believe) to Gardenfor's 'Conceptual
>> Spaces' and Meyer & Land's 'Threshold Concepts' (theoretical
>> underpinnings?).
>>
>> The blog includes many posts on these too and 'sociotechnical' -
>> 'socio-technical'.
>>
>> A key (for your community and 'mine' in health care) is POLITICAL which
>> is one of the four domains.
>>
>> In this respect the model is more relevant now than ever:
>>
>> human rights
>> information access
>> consent
>> government policy - climate change
>> mental capacity
>> law
>> data security
>> corporations
>> gender politics
>> AI
>> demographic change - employment
>> migration
>> populism
>> fake news
>> ....
>>
>> I still maintain the ambition to create online a 'reflective workbench'.
>>
>> Even your 'users' with skills but without motivation can be represented
>> in Hodges' model.
>>
>> The (INDIVIDUAL) intra- interpersonal domain which includes - cognition,
>> beliefs, attitudes, 'personality', values, trust, competence, motivation,
>> emotion, mood, education, aptitude, memory ...
>>
>> While socio-technical operates diagonally in the model, there are other
>> disciplinary bridges:
>>
>> SOCIO-ECONOMIC
>> PHYSICO-POLITICAL
>> PSYCHO-SOMATIC
>> MIND-BODY
>> BIO-PSYCHO-SOCIAL
>> GEO-POLITICAL
>> [SUBJECTIVE - OBJECTIVE]
>> [QUALITATIVE - QUANTITATIVE]
>> ...
>>
>> I'd be pleased to try to answer any questions and f/w papers if needed.
>> Also keen to network and potentially collaborate.
>>
>> I hope this is some help Greg?
>>
>> Peter Jones
>> Community Mental Health Nurse & Researcher
>> CMHT Brookside
>> Aughton Street
>> Ormskirk L39 3BH, UK
>> Blogging at "Welcome to the QUAD" <http://hodges-model.blogspot.com/>
>> <http://hodges-model.blogspot.com/>
>> <http://hodges-model.blogspot.com/>http://hodges-model.blogspot.com/
>> <http://twitter.com/h2cm>
>> <http://twitter.com/h2cm>
>> <http://twitter.com/h2cm>http://twitter.com/h2cm
>>
>> <http://twitter.com/h2cm>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 15:19:49 GMT, Greg Mcverry <
>> jgregmcverry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> As many of you know I am an active member an open source community
>> #IndieWeb..
>>
>> We have used a model to represent the software gaol called generations:
>> https://indieweb.org/generations
>>
>> We want to rethink the model, for background discussion see: thttps://
>> chat.indieweb.org/meta/2019-03-02#t1551491484847800
>>
>> Basically what happened is the model lead to classifying people rather
>> than snapshots of time and software develoipment.
>>
>> So we want a new conceptual model:
>>
>>
>>    - Recognize the bidirectional relationship between the software, the
>>    community, the learner.
>>    - We stress first way to change the world is to change your self (get
>>    a website)
>>    - We want to account some people want to increase their skills and
>>    learn more complicated tech
>>    - Others may have all the skills but not want to be bothered
>>    - We also do not address the economic role social media plays..using
>>    their capital to ensure dominance..not sure we need to
>>
>>
>> This will be a long term project as we try to reconceptualize our tiny
>> effort to save the web from corporate power.
>>
>> I am reading up a bit on "systems innovations" from those who take
>> ecological views of socio human technical systems
>>
>> (traditional information processing seems to be be where the generations
>> thinking first came into manufacturing research...though used differently
>> as idea generation or hardware generation)
>>
>> But we want to come at this from multiple perspcetives. Already using
>> Activity Theory but its' too broad. Basically want to rethink that into our
>> context.
>>
>> Anyone know of examples or fields we should check out?
>>
>> (btw if you ever want a self organized learning space to study IndieWeb
>> community is fascinating)
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
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