[Xmca-l] Re: FW: BBS Call for Commentary Proposals: Veissière et al.

PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch
Thu Jun 20 06:09:14 PDT 2019


Thanks, Alfredo.
I remain at the disposal of who would like to work on it.
Anne-Nelly

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Objet : [Xmca-l] Re: FW: BBS Call for Commentary Proposals: Veissière et
al.

>Certainly, Anne-Nelly, the work you just shared would be relevant for
>that commentary,
>Alfredo
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>on behalf of PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly
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>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: BBS Call for Commentary Proposals: Veissière et
>al.
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>It would be great to have someone from XMCA who would comment and enrich
>this debate (on these days I am not available to do it).
>The underlying model in this upcoming article seems to rely mostly on
>conformity, monological approaches, etc. In the paper (attached here) we
>offer a completely different approach, much more inspired by dialogism,
>cultural historical theory, and a serious account of the activity that the
>child indulges in when answering.
>Hoping to read you on these issues.
>
>Anne-Nelly
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>Prof. emer. Anne-Nelly Perret-Clermont
>Institut de psychologie et éducation
>Faculté des lettres et sciences humaines
>Université de Neuchâtel
>Espace Tilo-Frey 1   CH 2000 Neuchâtel (Switzerland)
>http://www.unine.ch/ipe/publications/anne_nelly_perret_clermont
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>Objet : [Xmca-l]  FW: BBS Call for Commentary Proposals: Veissière et al.
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>>I'm reading through this upcoming article in BBS which takes as its
>>primary problem, acquisition of culture.
>>BBS solicits commentaries on each article, and these are reviewed and
>>then published along with it.
>>As there is not a single reference to Vygotsky or cultural historical
>>theory in the article, I thought someone on XMCA might want to submit a
>>commentary.
>>David
>>
>>
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>>Subject: BBS Call for Commentary Proposals: Veissière et al.
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>>Dear Dr. Kirshner:
>>
>>We are writing you to announce that BBS has just accepted an article for
>>open peer commentary in BBS. The article was already reviewed, and we are
>>now accepting commentary proposals. If you are interested in writing a
>>commentary, you are welcome to submit a short proposal (see instructions
>>below). No action is required if you aren't interested.
>>
>>Please DO NOT submit a full commentary article unless you are formally
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>>itself, the commentator's expertise, whether the commentator's work has
>>been discussed in the target article, and other considerations.
>>
>>NOW PROCESSING COMMENTARY PROPOSALS ON:
>>
>>Target Article: Thinking Through Other Minds: A Variational Approach to
>>Cognition and Culture
>>
>>Authors: Samuel P. L. Veissière, Axel Constant, Maxwell J. D. Ramstead,
>>Karl J. Friston, and Laurence J. Kirmayer
>>
>>Deadline for Commentary Proposals: Tuesday July 9, 2019
>>
>>Abstract: The processes underwriting the acquisition of culture remain
>>unclear. How are shared habits, norms, and expectations learned and
>>maintained with precision and reliability across large-scale
>>sociocultural ensembles? Is there a unifying account of the mechanisms
>>involved in the acquisition of culture? Notions such as 'shared
>>expectations', the 'selective patterning of attention and behaviour',
>>'cultural evolution', 'cultural inheritance', and 'implicit learning' are
>>the main candidates to underpin a unifying account of cognition and the
>>acquisition of culture; however, their interactions require greater
>>specification and clarification. In this paper, we integrate these
>>candidates using the variational (free energy) approach to human
>>cognition and culture in theoretical neuroscience. We describe the
>>construction by humans of social niches that afford epistemic resources
>>called cultural affordances. We argue that human agents learn the shared
>>habits, norms, and expectations of their culture through immersive
>>participation in patterned cultural practices that selectively pattern
>>attention and behaviour. We call this process "Thinking through Other
>>Minds" (TTOM) - in effect, the process of inferring other agents'
>>expectations about the world and how to behave in social context. We
>>argue that for humans, information from and about other people's
>>expectations constitutes the primary domain of statistical regularities
>>that humans leverage to predict and organize behaviour. The integrative
>>model we offer has implications that can advance theories of cognition,
>>enculturation, adaptation, and psychopathology. Crucially, this formal
>>(variational) treatment seeks to resolve key debates in current cognitive
>>science, such as the distinction between internalist and externalist
>>accounts of Theory of Mind abilities and the more fundamental distinction
>>between dynamical and representational accounts of enactivism.
>>
>>
>>Keywords: Cognition and culture; Variational free energy principle;
>>Social learning; Epistemic Affordances; Cultural affordances; Niche
>>construction; Embodiment; Enactment
>>
>>
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>>
>>1. Name of the target article for which you are submitting a commentary
>>proposal.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>Please number these sections in your proposal: 1., 2., 3., 4.
>>
>>EDITORS' NOTES ON WRITING YOUR PROPOSAL
>>
>>In addition to the open "Call for Commentary Proposals," we invite
>>commentators who do not submit proposals‹these include reviewers of the
>>paper, scholars whose work is discussed in the paper, and commentators
>>suggested by the authors. (Obviously, these can be overlapping sets.)
>>Once we subtract this set, only about 20 submitted proposals from the
>>Call for Commentary Proposals can be invited to write a commentary.
>>
>>Commentary selection is necessarily multifactorial. It must be balanced
>>to a degree across the various fields of cognitive science, point of view
>>of the article, and several other aspects of academic diversity. The
>>number of proposals can vary widely, however, depending on the topic, the
>>range is from 15 to 150! In the latter case, when we can accept only a
>>little over 1 in 10 of the proposals, a few things will facilitate a
>>positive reading of a proposal, and hopefully acceptance, given the
>>constraints:
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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