[Xmca-l] Re: Do we find Inequalities in wild life system?

[Huw Lloyd]

Nevermind, Andy.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 00:19, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

> Mmm, "subjective" is a polysemous word, Huw. It is not a matter of
> precision but of relativity. "Inequality" is a famously contested concept,
> as is "injustice," but its contestation is necessarily in a social context
> and with social content. Justice and equality are given objective form in
> law and social policy in definite, really-existing states or organisations
> challenging for state power, not the opinion of individuals.
>
> andy
> ------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 29/01/2019 1:50 am, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>
> It isn't "subjective", Andy. Rather it is limited to a certain construal.
> One can be quite precise and objective about that construal.
>
> Huw
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 14:14, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>
>> I can't agree that with your suggestion, Huw, that inequality (in the
>> meaning with which Harshad used it) is something subjective, in the eye of
>> the beholder. Such a view would be very pernicious politically. The fact is
>> that states have emerged and developed over many centuries so as to makes
>> objective certain concepts of justice, among which are various qualified
>> and nuances notions of equality. This is not  figment of my imagination.
>>
>> andy
>> ------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> On 29/01/2019 12:59 am, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>
>> We find "wild life" systems that are imbalanced and subject to radical
>> changes.
>>
>> Inequality is a perceptual/cognitive construct and predicated on an
>> ontological scope. We find the condition of inequality (or comparison) in
>> our thinking and behaviour. Every living thing "finds" inequalities. We do
>> not find inequality, we find the awareness of inequality.
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 08:17, James Ma <jamesma320@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Should you find inequality within a wildlife system, that must be a
>>> political, ideological precept!
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 07:56, James Ma <jamesma320@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not only is it meaningless but also preposterous. To maintain that all
>>>> members of the same species are equal, as Anne Moir and David Jessel put
>>>> it, is to "build a society based on a biological and scientific lie".
>>>> James
>>>> PS: I'm apolitical - anything political, ideological just doesn't speak
>>>> to me!
>>>>
>>>> *_______________________________________________________*
>>>>
>>>> *James Ma  Independent Scholar *
>>>> *https://oxford.academia.edu/JamesMa
>>>> <https://oxford.academia.edu/JamesMa>    *
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 05:27, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Harshad,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Inequality" is a meaningless concept when referred to Nature.
>>>>> Likewise "Injustice."
>>>>>
>>>>> Justice and equality are relevant only to the extent that the subjects
>>>>> are living in an 'artificial' world, out of Nature. Natural disasters and
>>>>> the plenitude of Nature have these dimensions only to the extent they are
>>>>> imposed on or made available to different classes of people by the social
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Andy Blunden
>>>>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>>>> On 28/01/2019 4:00 pm, Harshad Dave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am working on one article. I want to know your views on following
>>>>> query.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Do we find Inequalities exists in wild life system?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Your views will help me in my work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Harshad Dave
>>>>> Email: hhdave15@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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