[Xmca-l] Re: kinship

[Martin Packer]

By your definition or theirs, Michael?

Martin



> On Jan 7, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth <wolffmichael.roth@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> but plants form families, too
> 
> the familiar is linked to family apparently in languages that have adopted
> the term from Latin, but not languages as Polish or Russian
> 
> Michael
> 
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> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
> 
>> So James,
>> 
>> Could a childless couple in China be called a family?
>> 
>> Or would they need to have a pig?  :)
>> 
>> To all: In English we don’t call a childless couple a family, do we?
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> "I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
>> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
>> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
>> the feeling that this also applies to myself” (Malinowski, 1930)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 5:45 PM, James Ma <jamesma320@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just to add an etymological aspect that you might be interested to know
>>> (this is because Chines is logographical).
>>> 
>>> According to the Chinese Oracle, family 家 has two parts: the upper
>>> part 宀 refers
>>> to "room"; the lower part 豕 refers to "pig". In the ancient times, people
>>> raised pigs in their houses, so having pigs in a house was a hallmark of
>>> living. In modern Chinese, family also indicates "relationship", e.g.
>> 亲如一家
>>> as close as a family.
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 January 2018 at 21:30, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In Chinese and in Korean, the word "family" is related to housing rather
>>>> than to kinship. In European languages it is the other way around. This
>>>> does suggest something semantic, no?
>>>> 
>>>> David Kellogg
>>>> 
>>>> Recent Article in *Mind, Culture, and Activity* 24 (4) 'Metaphoric,
>>>> Metonymic, Eclectic, or Dialectic? A Commentary on “Neoformation: A
>>>> Dialectical Approach to Developmental Change”'
>>>> 
>>>> Free e-print available (for a short time only) at
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/YAWPBtmPM8knMCNg6sS6/full
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Greg Thompson <
>> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Martin,
>>>>> Well that is a difficult question to answer without knowing what you
>> mean
>>>>> by "family"?
>>>>> What in the world do you mean by "family"?
>>>>> -greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am struggling with the way ‘family’ and ‘kinship’ have been defined,
>>>> or
>>>>>> not defined, in psychology and anthropology. One question that has
>>>>> occurred
>>>>>> to me is whether a word equivalent to ‘family’ exists in every
>>>> language.
>>>>>> When I Google this, Google responds ‘Ask Siri’…  :(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone have an idea?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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