[Xmca-l] Re: The most, the best educated and the most dangerous

Ulvi İçil ulvi.icil@gmail.com
Sun Mar 5 04:33:08 PST 2017


Thanks, well "en masse" may be erroneous, I agree. But I did not aim a
totality but rather something "a large part".

Thanks.

On 5 March 2017 at 14:08, <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ulvi,
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> The phrase, ‘placing themselves en masse on the side of the dominant class’
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> En masse may  be considered a relation of ‘holism’ as a metaphor. Martin
> Packer (see page 10 in book – Cultural and Critical Perspectives on Human
> Development) defines holism :
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> ‘even in cultural psychology there is often a presumption of **holism** :
> The thesis that a social order has an overall systematic pattern that gives
> definition to its parts and their interrelations. The **metaphor** of
> culture as a set of tools or a toolkit is **holist** and this unitary and
> unproblematic conception of culture can **lead** us to assume,
> erroneously, that cognition and ways of knowing are unitary, fixed, and
> unchanging, and unaffected by the situations in which they are employed.
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> If we consider (en masse) as a metaphor does it share a family resemblance
> with (holism) as a metaphor that **leads** us to assumptions?
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> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
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> *From: *Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *March 4, 2017 11:42 AM
> *To: *xmca-l@ucsd.edu
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] The most, the best educated and the most dangerous
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> Well, given that education is a class issue in capitalist society, any
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> society,
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> that the best most educated are placing themselves en masse on the side of
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> the dominant class
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> can we think that the most "educated" and also the "best" educated are
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> at the same time the most dangerous people for the humanity
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> because they are located at the most critical decision-making points
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> of a social order.
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> Well,  this can be a really trivial issue but since I could not meet it in
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> my country's intellectual life,communist and non communist, I needed to ask
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> it for world experience.
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> It seems that the best educated seem to be en masse the most dangerous ones
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> to initiate wars etc whereas the least educated formally but the best
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> self-educated via working class instititutions seem to be the most
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> emancipatory and in fact best educated people in the real sense of the
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> world (e.g. José Marti)
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> Erdogan is obviously not the most educated in my country, Turkey, nor was
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> Hitler nor Bush.
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> But Obama, Clinton, Hollande, Javier Solana (who destroyed Yugoslavia with
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> Nato bombing) Merkel were and all well educated...and quite dangerous.
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> I was really surprised to the self- gathered conscience of one of my
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> friends when he stated that Hillary Clinton was a very dangerous woman.
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> Thanks
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> Ulvi
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