[Xmca-l] Re: Appeal for help

[Greg Thompson]

Andy,

Appropriating Martins list for cognition, how about:

Situated ethics?
Distributed ethics?
Extended ethics?
Ordinary ethics?

Speaking of which, Michael Lambek has an edited book out by the name
of that last one!
Ordinary Ethics: Anthropology, Language, and Action
(and here is a link to a review by Michael Lempert that also points to
some others who playing around with virtue ethics in various ways:
http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.1.029/673)

And speaking of this tradition of anthropology of morality folks who
have been thinking about virtue ethics, Webb Keane has a nice new book
out called Ethical Life: Its Natural and Social Histories:
https://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Life-Natural-Social-Histories/dp/0691167737

Anthropologists have for a long time been dealing with the general
issue that you flag (becoming a different person because of a
different context). It is a basic part of doing fieldwork. You go to
another culture and do the same thing that you always did but suddenly
in this new culture you find that you aren't the same person you were
where you came from. Simple enough. The difficulty is finding someone
who has written about it! I think it might be considered too
commonplace to write about (but if so, I think they are wrong!).

Anyway, I'd be interested to hear more about your project.

-greg




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> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> Well, as is my nature, and given my situation, I am not going to do any of that kind of *investigation*, Michael; I don't really want to explain my larger project because that would lead to confusion of all kinds at this stage. But ... I am just trying to show that the understanding of virtues is enhanced by taking virtues to be attributes of projects, with individuals perhaps acquiring and developing such attributes in and through their participation in, commitment to and place within the project. But it is not my intention to look at participation in projects as a way of individuals acquiring virtues. But simply that the virtuous nature of the project is what is primary, not the prima facie character of the individual participants. The problems I will face in substantiating this are very similar to the issues you raised about cognitive development, but I am confident I can overcome them.
>
> OK?
>
> Andy
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://home.mira.net/~andy
> http://www.brill.com/products/book/origins-collective-decision-making
>> On 5/07/2016 4:21 PM, Glassman, Michael wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> There are two issues here.  Are you exploring the way individual and group ethics change based on the current circumstances - separate from culturally developed "virtues" or are you exploring the way individual adapt to different sets of "virtues"  "morals" whatever when they change culture?
>>
>> Michael
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Blunden
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 2:15 AM
>> To: Nektarios Alexi <NEKTARIOS.ALEXI@cdu.edu.au>; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Appeal for help
>>
>> Perfect Alex! Thank you.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://home.mira.net/~andy
>> http://www.brill.com/products/book/origins-collective-decision-making
>>
>>> On 5/07/2016 4:00 PM, Nektarios Alexi wrote:
>>> For your request on similar information about changes in a person's
>>> character following their emigration to another country?  I have used
>>> his theory for my PhD thesis on acculturation effect for help seeking
>>> intentions for mental ilness.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-0597.1997.tb01087.x/
>>> abstract;jsessionid=3F23F698365AD798272D11D57C859C71.f04t02
>>>
>>> Immigration, Acculturation, and Adaptation - Berry - 2008 ...
>>> <http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-0597.1997.tb01087.x
>>> /abstract;jsessionid=3F23F698365AD798272D11D57C859C71.f04t02>
>>> onlinelibrary.wiley.com
>>> How to Cite. Berry, J. W. (1997), Immigration, Acculturation, and
>>> Adaptation. Applied Psychology:An International Review, 46: 5-34. doi:
>>> 10.1111/j.1464-0597.1997 ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Andy Blunden
>>> <ablunden@mira.net>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2016 3:08:22 PM
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Appeal for help
>>> Comrade and friends, I need some help.
>>>
>>> I am setting about developing a new approach to virtue ethics. Virtues
>>> are everywhere taken to be deep-seated attributes of a person's
>>> character; my aim is to make the starting point instead from virtues
>>> defined as deep-seated attributes of a project, which you can take to
>>> mean "social context" or "system of activity" if you wish. I don't
>>> need advice about issues and problems of ethics, but it is in in the
>>> nature of virtue ethics that it always has strong implications for
>>> psychology as well as social theory, to the extent that I think I can
>>> make a great deal of progress by calling on psychological data.
>>>
>>> Can people point me to research(ers) about how a person's character
>>> changes with social context (e.g. home/work), any evidence of the
>>> well-known phenomenon in which a person promoted above the ability
>>> suffers a moral degeneration; any suitable and reliable data about the
>>> differing character (not just preferences or cognition, but virtues)
>>> of people from one culture or another? or similar information about
>>> changes in a person's character following their emigration to another
>>> country?
>>>
>>> URLs appreciated, or whole books, I don't have access to a university
>>> library or JSTOR.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Andy Blunden
>>> http://home.mira.net/~andy <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy>
>>> http://www.brill.com/products/book/origins-collective-decision-making
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