[Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject

David H Kirshner dkirsh@lsu.edu
Tue Aug 16 12:15:55 PDT 2016


Gaelic was brought from Ireland in the 5th and 6th centuries AD and now is spoken mainly in western Scotland.
I was picked up hitchhiking in Scotland many years ago by three guys in a Volkswagen, and could not tell for the duration of the 30 minute drive whether they were conversing in English or Gaelic.
David


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From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of FRANCIS J. SULLIVAN
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:53 PM
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject

And isn't it also true that "Irish" (Is that the same as "Gaelic"? What are the differences?) has mad a real comeback as a spoken language among Irish citizens?

Francis J. Sullivan, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Stephen Walsh <stephenwals@gmail.com>
wrote:

> HI Peter,
> e
> In Ireland all schoolchildren study 'Irish'.  It is compulsory form 
> the beginning of primary education to the end of secondary education.  
> If it would be helpful to have more detail I can put some more info 
> together for you.
>
> Best regards,
> Stephen
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm writing mainly to my colleagues who are familiar with public 
> > school, pre-university (what we call K-12 in the US) education 
> > systems, with a question.
> >
> > In English-speaking nations, there is a school subject called "English"
> > that involves the study of literature (much from English-speaking
> authors,
> > rather than "world literature" which may have its own separate 
> > course), writing (or now, multimodal composing), and language study 
> > (of the
> English
> > language, often in the form of grammar instruction). This subject is 
> > not ESL, EFL, TESOL, or other way of describing learning the 
> > language of English by speakers of other languages.
> >
> > My question: I know that in Russia there are school subjects of 
> > Russian literature and language; in the Netherlands there is the following:
> > The Study Dutch Language & Literature (Dutch: Nederlandse Taal- en
> > Letterkunde) can be found at each Dutch university. Formerly you 
> > studied linguistics and literature, from about 1975 a third 
> > component was
> > introduced: Taalbeheersing (Dutch for language skills, especially 
> > writing and argumentation). Nowadays the studies have new names, 
> > like Dutch Language and culture
> >
> > Do other nations dedicate a school subject to this discipline
> (literature,
> > writing, language study in L1 and generally nationalistic in curriculum)?
> > If so, what is it called, and what does it comprise?
> >
> > Thx,Peter
> >
> >
>



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