[Xmca-l] Re: Objective and Subjective ZPDs

David Kellogg dkellogg60@gmail.com
Sun Sep 6 04:44:28 PDT 2015


Sure, Andy. I think there's a copy on the lchc discussions site. But here's
a pdf of an early draft from Gordon Wells' course pack.

David Kellogg

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> David, do you have a PDF of an article which explains this
> double-barrelled concept?
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> On 6/09/2015 6:26 PM, David Kellogg wrote:
>
>> Martin, Andy, Mike...and Others:
>>
>> I've been trying to make sense out of Seth Chaiklin's distinction between
>> the "objective" ZPD and the subjective one. He's obviously got in mind
>> exactly the material we are now translating: Vygotsky's attempt to render
>> the ZPD as a "next zone of development", where the next zone of
>> development
>> is either
>>
>> a) given by the social situation of development (and therefore more or
>> less
>> the same for a whole age group of children).
>>
>> b) given by the "ripening functions" in the lines of development (and
>> therefore different for every individual child).
>>
>> So here's what I've got in chart form. As you'll see, it's very different
>> from the chart that Andy had in his 2009 article, and also somewhat
>> different from the very elegant formulations that Martin had (which to my
>> chagrin I can't remember very well).
>>
>> I've added a column of linguistic indicators taken from Halliday's 2002
>> volume on early childhood language, because I have to be able to apply all
>> this to data some day very soon.....
>>
>> This is a very sketchy schematicky sort of preliminary draft, and
>> criticisms, objections, imprecations, and even just gutteral mutterings
>> would be most welcome.
>>
>> David Kellogg
>>
>
>
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