[Xmca-l] Re: Interesting to think about: the social springs of giving

mike cole mcole@ucsd.edu
Mon Oct 19 10:00:18 PDT 2015


What did you make of the CBS segment, Jay? Does it provide useful example
of principle of community's in Turner?
Mike
Mike

On Monday, October 19, 2015, Jay Lemke <lemke.jay@gmail.com> wrote:

> For an interesting approach to "community", I'd recommend Edith Turner's
> "Communitas". Ethnographic deepening of late Victor Turner's concept.
>
> JAY.
>
>
> Jay Lemke
> LCHC/Department of Communication
> University of California - San Diego
> www.jaylemke.com
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Yes, indeed I am interested, Mike.
> > Critiquing the concept of "social capital" and developing an alternative
> > concept of "social solidarity" and searching for a suitable unit of
> > analysis was how I got started down the track I have been on ever since
> > then, about 2003. What is the difference between community as in all
> people
> > living in such and such town, and "real" community? Robert Putnam had
> > assembled evidence that almost any collective activity fosters what he
> > called "social capital." The problem was that he couldn't distinguish
> > between the mafia taking root in a community and a community taking
> control
> > of crime on its streets, etc. His classic "example" activity was the
> > formation of choir groups, proven promoters of collective "wealth".
> >
> > Andy
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > *Andy Blunden*
> > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> >
> > On 19/10/2015 2:07 PM, mike cole wrote:
> >
> >> I found a segment of the American weekly TV program, 60 minutes, more
> than
> >> usually interesting this evening, and one segment in particular
> >> seemed to have a lot of relevance to many different interests of people
> on
> >> xmca. The topic was the the activities of the "Make a Wish Foundation."
> >>
> >> Of the very many issues that the program discusses, one which I found
> >> particularly interesting was the ability of the organized practice of
> >> communities
> >> raising money to give seriously ill children "a last wish" is one that
> has
> >> particular relevance to questions about the mechanisms of social
> >> solidarity. In small towns in northern Arkansas, a relatively poor and
> out
> >> of the part of the US, people raise amazing amounts of money to provide
> >> special experience for kids who are dying of some disease that has not
> >> known current cure. What particularly caught my attention especially is
> >> the
> >> powerful effect that participation in the money raising and the
> ingenious
> >> social organization of the activities, has on community members across
> >> several generations, from peers to grandparents. In one sense, it seems
> >> that everything is so focuses on the individual kid that it is "just a
> >> manifestation of late capitalist individualism." If effects on the kids
> is
> >> interesting, but it is the reflected effect on the community pretty
> >> generally, and the emergence of strong personal bonds in particular that
> >> caught me most.
> >>
> >> Andy might find this interesting as an example of a project.
> >>
> >> mike
> >>
> >>   http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/topics/60-minutes/     click on make a
> >> wish
> >>
> >>
> >
>


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