[Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men

Greg Thompson greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
Sun Nov 8 23:00:44 PST 2015


RE: children's day, would this do:
http://www.un.org/en/events/childrenday/
?
12 days and counting...
How to celebrate?
-greg

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>
wrote:

> True story,  the English is cleaned up to protect the innocent
>
> My first year of graduate school there were two female physicists who had
> just come over from China who I had become friendly with.  One morning I
> hear a knock on my door.  There stands one of the physicists
>
> "Where do we get our tickets?"  She asks me.
>
> "What?"  I say.
>
> "Our tickets.  Me and my roommate want to know where we get our movie
> tickets."
>
> "Movie tickets?"  She nods her head excitedly.  "Why would you get movie
> tickets?"
>
> She looks at me like I'm an idiot.  "Because it's international women's
> day."
>
> "International women's day?  We don't have a women's day."
>
> "Of course you do," she said frustrated.  "It's international.  That's why
> they call it international women's day."
>
> "No, we don't have a women's day in the United States."
>
> "Women's day," she says insistent.  "We get movie tickets.  We don't have
> to work."
>
> "No," I say, "there is no women's day in the United States."
>
> Her eyes get wide.  "Does that mean I'm supposed to go into my lab."
>
> "There's no women's day."
>
> She sighs and turns around - and says as she leaves (interestingly enough
> in English), "But I'm too old for children's day."
>
> I just didn't have the heart to tell her.
>
> Happy men's day everybody.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces+mglassman=ehe.ohio-state.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu
> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+mglassman=ehe.ohio-state.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 10:24 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men
>
> Try Wordsworth, Huw, re child-man (aka grownup).
>
> The Benjamin is really amazing. That's it.  How he saw this in Klee is
> amazing...... to me.
> mike
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > And who was it that said that the child is the father of the man --
> > maybe I read that from Ilyenkov?
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 November 2015 at 02:18, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Erm, the chimera performing a sanctifying act, I meant to say.  V.
> nice.
> > >
> > > Huw
> > >
> > > On 9 November 2015 at 02:16, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This one?
> > >>
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus_Novus
> > >>
> > >> I felt it was from Klee immediately, seeing a lion and phoenix
> chimera.
> > >> A good emblem for sure.  But, by the way, I was thinking
> > >> predominantly one's own childhood as the idea with a bridge to the
> > >> children now.  So,
> > for
> > >> the universally minded it is so.
> > >>
> > >> Huw
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 9 November 2015 at 01:53, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was thinking about a children's day, too, Huw.
> > >>>
> > >>> When I was a kid, Nov. 11th was Armistice Day. Then it became
> > >>> Memorial Day, now it is Veterans day. Benjamin's picture of the
> > >>> Angel of History "to
> > a
> > >>> T"
> > >>> as we
> > >>> blokes say.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> PS- All is not gloom vis a vis Nov. 11th. It is the day I met my
> wife!
> > >>> :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Huw Lloyd
> > >>> <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > And, if I recall correctly, a sense of specialness of the day in
> > >>> > conjunction with a community-wide collective activity (cleaning
> > >>> > the
> > >>> rooms,
> > >>> > including moving heavy furniture to do so).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Huw
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On 9 November 2015 at 01:21, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > IN his book on teaching deaf/blind kids, A. Meshcheryakov says
> > >>> > > they
> > >>> used
> > >>> > > teh celebration of national holidays as a way of imparting a
> > >>> > > sense
> > of
> > >>> > time.
> > >>> > > Andy
> > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> > > *Andy Blunden*
> > >>> > > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/ On 9/11/2015 12:17 PM, Huw
> > >>> > > Lloyd wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> I don't know.  The best thing that I can think of that is
> > consonant
> > >>> with
> > >>> > >> the media of 'a day' is the recognition of the cultural
> > >>> > >> notion of
> > >>> time.
> > >>> > >>  Putting it in that context, is does seem the case that some
> > >>> > >> of long-standing holy-days do implicate certain constants
> > >>> > >> (relative
> > to
> > >>> our
> > >>> > >> cultures and their histories), e.g. the equinoctes.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Generally I have an aversion to such artifices as celebratory
> > days,
> > >>> but
> > >>> > I
> > >>> > >> think I might participate in something like a children's day,
> > >>> thereby
> > >>> > >> encouraging some reflection on at least a generational
> > >>> > >> timescale
> > in
> > >>> > >> contrast to the 24hour/5year media-politicking.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Best,
> > >>> > >> Huw
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On 9 November 2015 at 00:55, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> > >>> <mailto:
> > >>> > >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>     I think the point is that holidays have *always* been
> > >>> > >>     fixed to reinforce the normative order. The only
> > >>> > >>     exception I know is May Day, which is not a holiday
> > >>> > >>     here in Oz.
> > >>> > >>     Andy
> > >>> > >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> > >>     *Andy Blunden*
> > >>> > >>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> > >>> > >>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>     On 9/11/2015 11:51 AM, mike cole wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>         Dear Colleagues -Here is the latest word on
> > >>> > >>         International Mens day and its
> > >>> > >>         presence in the United States thanks to a hint
> > >>> > >>         about checking Wikipedia:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day
> .
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>         Is it just me, or does anyone out there think that
> > >>> > >>         some thought should be
> > >>> > >>         giving to gender neutral holidays instead of the
> > >>> > >>         normative order? For
> > >>> > >>         example, how about a Parents Day and a
> > >>> > >>         Grandparents day. With time off and
> > >>> > >>         a little family time, whatever that family might be.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>         mike
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>         On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Hans Knutagård
> > >>> > >>         <hans.knutagard@ingressus.se
> > >>> > >>         <mailto:hans.knutagard@ingressus.se>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>             wrote:
> > >>> > >>             In Sweden we celebrate Fathers day evry year
> > >>> > >>             the Sunday in November
> > >>> > >>             between the 8 and 14. It started 1931 as a
> > >>> > >>             respons to Mother's day in May
> > >>> > >>             (in Sweden).
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                 8 nov. 2015 kl. 20:58 skrev Rauno Huttunen
> > >>> > >>                 <rakahu@utu.fi <mailto:rakahu@utu.fi>>:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                 Hello,
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                 In Finland it is Father's Day.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                 Rauno Huttunen
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                 Lähetetty iPadista
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu
> > >>> > >>                     <mailto:mcole@ucsd.edu>> kirjoitti
> > >>> > >>                     8.11.2015 kello 21.37:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     I have learned from my Russian
> > >>> > >>                     colleagues that today is the
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>             International
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     Day honoring Men, which I am told is
> > >>> > >>                     celebrated in 70 countries
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>             including
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     the US (Wikipedia so testifies). But I
> > >>> > >>                     have never heard of it! Just me,
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>             or
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     is this
> > >>> > >>                     not a generally recognized holiday in
> > >>> > >>                     the U.S.?
> > >>> > >>                     mike
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     --
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>                     It is the dilemma of psychology to
> > >>> > >>                     deal as a natural science with an
> > >>> > >>                     object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with
> > >>> an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>
>


-- 
Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
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