[Xmca-l] Re: 4 experiencing fans

[Nektarios Alexi]

I googled and just found the following abstract


In his most recent writings Michael White made extensive reference to the work of Russian psychologist Lev Vygotsky, taking up several Vygotskian concepts (e.g., scaffolding) into a re-visioning of his narrative conversations maps. We used observational coding to test White's newly formulated scaffolding conversations map against actual process in therapy with children, and the current paper is a qualitative report of our findings. We found that most speech turns were codable at some level of the map, that children responded to therapists' scaffolding, and that therapists and children tended to proceed through the steps of the map in single-session therapy. These findings demonstrate that White's model of therapy is observable and suggest that change occurred at the level of language over the session. This study lays the foundation for future research regarding potential links between White's process and therapeutic outcomes.

Read More: http://guilfordjournals.com/doi/abs/10.1521/jsyt.2010.29.4.74?journalCode=jsyt

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From: xmca-l-bounces+nektarios.alexi=cdu.edu.au@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces+nektarios.alexi=cdu.edu.au@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of Nektarios Alexi [NEKTARIOS.ALEXI@cdu.edu.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2015 9:57 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: 4 experiencing fans

Yes Philip I thought it would be from Brunner who got the idea of scaffolding but in one of his books he claims that this idea is from Vygotsky.

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From: xmca-l-bounces+nektarios.alexi=cdu.edu.au@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces+nektarios.alexi=cdu.edu.au@mailman.ucsd.edu] on behalf of White, Phillip [Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2015 9:51 AM
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: 4 experiencing fans

as it turns out, Alexi, wikipedia sez influences on michael white (who is reported to have died in san diego in 2008) are:

Influences
While early influences included those of systems theory and cybernetics (Gregory Bateson),[7] White's main work drew on a wide range of sources, including literary theory (Jerome Bruner), cultural anthropology (Clifford Geertz, Barbara Myerhoff, Victor Turner), non-structuralist psychology (William James, Lev Vygotsky) and French critical / post-structuralist philosophy (Jacques Derrida, Gilles Deleuze and Michel Foucault).[8]

so, probably white got the notion of scaffolding from jerome bruner, who has promoted the theory or scaffolding.

phillip
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From: xmca-l-bounces+phillip.white=ucdenver.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces+phillip.white=ucdenver.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Nektarios Alexi <NEKTARIOS.ALEXI@cdu.edu.au>
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 4:54 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: 4 experiencing fans

I have not seen it my self at any of Vygotskys work but Michael White in one of his books claims he  uses the idea of scaffolding that is taken from Vygotsky's work for psychotherapeutic practice.Thats why I have said that it could be that Michael White never read Vygotsky. He might read some interpretations of Vygotsky from other scholars but not the original work of Vygotksy.

I remember when I got interviewed for a couple counselling position and got asked whom are my favourite writers and said that one is Vygotsky (that was 3 years ago) the respond was "oh yes we know Vygotsky, Michael White the father of narrative therapy he uses his idea of scaffolding in his theories for counseling" since then to be honest I was thinking that scaffolding was Vygotksys concept:)