[Xmca-l] Re: XMCA home page?

[Huw Lloyd]

And the CHAT page on the link is here:
http://wiki.lchc.ucsd.edu/CHAT/WebHome

On 9 March 2015 at 12:23, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://foswiki.org/About.ExampleSites
>
> On 9 March 2015 at 12:19, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
>> OK, so we have one foswiki page on http://wiki.lchc.ucsd.edu/ already.
>> Perhaps we could call for volunteers to create a couple more.
>> A single plot does not a community garden make.
>>
>>
>> Andy
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Andy Blunden*
>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>
>>
>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>> The foswiki software.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 March 2015 at 11:53, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, the "X" in "XMCA" means eXtended, you know. But be that as it may,
>>>> what software would you recommend for a low maintenance on-line
>>>> community
>>>> CHAT garden?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------
>>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you'd need it to support MCA, Andy.  MCA is a different
>>>>> project to that of communicating CHAT concepts, practices and
>>>>> resources.
>>>>> MCA endeavours to do a portion of that, in a particular way.  XMCA
>>>>> usually
>>>>> reflects a certain impatience with that, it reflects a need to work
>>>>> over,
>>>>> discuss and critique the knowledge and concepts themselves rather than
>>>>> papers built out of a few personalised conceptions related to CHAT.
>>>>>
>>>>> MCA helps academics keep their publication count up and it helps to
>>>>> keep
>>>>> CHAT ideas in circulation within academic settings.  But I am not
>>>>> convinced
>>>>> that CHAT can be successfully accommodated by educational institutions
>>>>> as
>>>>> we know them.  So, the point is to take an educational project based on
>>>>> CHAT principles (which can often be taken as a scientific exposition of
>>>>> common good sense) and build a truer educational resource out of it.
>>>>> That
>>>>> kind of effort necessitates 'gardening' both for the production of
>>>>> resources and for their accommodation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 23:47, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How would you implement a "community garden" to support MCA and xmca,
>>>>>> Huw?
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>>>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I wrote a server-side library to achieve a broader version of
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>> years ago.  But that is peripheral to what Andy's question is about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 21:34, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ha! Huw, I was looking at another, much simpler way of doing a feed
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> what Annalisa had shown (and I don't really know how I got there
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be included in Annalisa's email).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was looking at a Quora page but I seem to recall that there are
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> websites that will let you set up a page that will feed from other
>>>>>>>> sites.
>>>>>>>> The idea being that you can set up a page and determine multiple
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> sites that will feed to it (e.g., the XMCA home page, Andy's Vimeo
>>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>>> etc.). Seems like there was even a feature that you can set so that
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> regularly search the web and display new content that appears on the
>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>> (e.g., you could set a search term for "cultural historical activity
>>>>>>>> theory" and there would be a section of the page that would display
>>>>>>>> everything that is recent on the web that relates to those search
>>>>>>>> terms).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know there is at least one site out there that can do this but I
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> recall what it was called (I learned of it from Mike Wesch who used
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> one of his classes).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huw or anyone else, do you know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was what I meant when I said that it would be minimal time to
>>>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>>>> and could be set up by anyone with minimal cost.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But maybe that was all just a dream...
>>>>>>>> -greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Huw Lloyd <
>>>>>>>> huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 18:40, <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .Anyway, it seems like it would be an easy thing to set up. And
>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>> could do it, right?
>>>>>>>>>> So why not prototype it and see what works and what doesn't? And
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> refine as needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is easy only to the extent that anyone could use their
>>>>>>>>> spontaneous
>>>>>>>>> notions of what is required.  If they are persistent and thorough
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> end up with some conceptions regarding how certain mistakes might
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> avoided.  If they reflected on that process with equal
>>>>>>>>> thoroughness,
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> they might end up with some concepts with which to start the work
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, no, it isn't easy.  And it isn't actually cheap either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Huw
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies, I did not mean to sound suspicious, I sincerely
>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you both had something in mind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The site you link to doesn't look like a garden to me. It looks
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regular website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about these links below?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 1st site might be a drupal site, Drupal has something called
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "drupal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> planet" that will collect feeds, but I'm not sure how it works
>>>>>>>>>> exactly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [A feed assembly site might be more like a garden? Then there is
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for permissions, just program the newsfeed and it sucks in links
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> various independent sites? Does wordpress do something like this?]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th sites below are wordpress sites.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 5th is site is using Open Journal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what the 6th is, but I couldn't resist to see what a
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> garden website might look like!  :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/blogs/knightblog/2015/3/5/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> four-knight-fellows-how-community-shapes-creativity/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/society/gender-equality-in-sweden/
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/2014/10/15/the-first-female-
>>>>>>>>>>> typographer/
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/6-22-14/
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/issue/view/13
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.3.002
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, here is the bona fide garden site:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/sustainability/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On that happy note...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Annalisa
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>>>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>>>>> Brigham Young University
>>>>>>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>>>>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>>>>>
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