[Xmca-l] Re: XMCA home page?

[Huw Lloyd]

http://foswiki.org/About.ExampleSites

On 9 March 2015 at 12:19, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> OK, so we have one foswiki page on http://wiki.lchc.ucsd.edu/ already.
> Perhaps we could call for volunteers to create a couple more.
> A single plot does not a community garden make.
>
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> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>
>
> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>
>> The foswiki software.
>>
>>
>> On 9 March 2015 at 11:53, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
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>>
>>> Well, the "X" in "XMCA" means eXtended, you know. But be that as it may,
>>> what software would you recommend for a low maintenance on-line community
>>> CHAT garden?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>
>>>
>>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't think you'd need it to support MCA, Andy.  MCA is a different
>>>> project to that of communicating CHAT concepts, practices and resources.
>>>> MCA endeavours to do a portion of that, in a particular way.  XMCA
>>>> usually
>>>> reflects a certain impatience with that, it reflects a need to work
>>>> over,
>>>> discuss and critique the knowledge and concepts themselves rather than
>>>> papers built out of a few personalised conceptions related to CHAT.
>>>>
>>>> MCA helps academics keep their publication count up and it helps to keep
>>>> CHAT ideas in circulation within academic settings.  But I am not
>>>> convinced
>>>> that CHAT can be successfully accommodated by educational institutions
>>>> as
>>>> we know them.  So, the point is to take an educational project based on
>>>> CHAT principles (which can often be taken as a scientific exposition of
>>>> common good sense) and build a truer educational resource out of it.
>>>> That
>>>> kind of effort necessitates 'gardening' both for the production of
>>>> resources and for their accommodation.
>>>>
>>>> Huw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 23:47, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> How would you implement a "community garden" to support MCA and xmca,
>>>>> Huw?
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I wrote a server-side library to achieve a broader version of
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> years ago.  But that is peripheral to what Andy's question is about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 21:34, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ha! Huw, I was looking at another, much simpler way of doing a feed
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> what Annalisa had shown (and I don't really know how I got there
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be included in Annalisa's email).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was looking at a Quora page but I seem to recall that there are
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> websites that will let you set up a page that will feed from other
>>>>>>> sites.
>>>>>>> The idea being that you can set up a page and determine multiple
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> sites that will feed to it (e.g., the XMCA home page, Andy's Vimeo
>>>>>>> page,
>>>>>>> etc.). Seems like there was even a feature that you can set so that
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> regularly search the web and display new content that appears on the
>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>> (e.g., you could set a search term for "cultural historical activity
>>>>>>> theory" and there would be a section of the page that would display
>>>>>>> everything that is recent on the web that relates to those search
>>>>>>> terms).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know there is at least one site out there that can do this but I
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> recall what it was called (I learned of it from Mike Wesch who used
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> one of his classes).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huw or anyone else, do you know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was what I meant when I said that it would be minimal time to
>>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>>> and could be set up by anyone with minimal cost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But maybe that was all just a dream...
>>>>>>> -greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 18:40, <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .Anyway, it seems like it would be an easy thing to set up. And
>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> could do it, right?
>>>>>>>>> So why not prototype it and see what works and what doesn't? And
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> refine as needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is easy only to the extent that anyone could use their
>>>>>>>> spontaneous
>>>>>>>> notions of what is required.  If they are persistent and thorough
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> end up with some conceptions regarding how certain mistakes might be
>>>>>>>> avoided.  If they reflected on that process with equal thoroughness,
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> they might end up with some concepts with which to start the work
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, no, it isn't easy.  And it isn't actually cheap either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My apologies, I did not mean to sound suspicious, I sincerely
>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you both had something in mind.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The site you link to doesn't look like a garden to me. It looks
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regular website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How about these links below?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 1st site might be a drupal site, Drupal has something called
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "drupal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> planet" that will collect feeds, but I'm not sure how it works
>>>>>>>>> exactly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [A feed assembly site might be more like a garden? Then there is
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for permissions, just program the newsfeed and it sucks in links
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> various independent sites? Does wordpress do something like this?]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th sites below are wordpress sites.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The 5th is site is using Open Journal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what the 6th is, but I couldn't resist to see what a real
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> garden website might look like!  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/blogs/knightblog/2015/3/5/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> four-knight-fellows-how-community-shapes-creativity/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/society/gender-equality-in-sweden/
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/2014/10/15/the-first-female-
>>>>>>>>>> typographer/
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/6-22-14/
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/issue/view/13
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.3.002
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, here is the bona fide garden site:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/sustainability/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On that happy note...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Annalisa
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>>>> Brigham Young University
>>>>>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>>>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>>>>
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