[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints

Ulvi İçil ulvi.icil@gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 22:03:33 PST 2015


You are rigth Andy, a big riddle indeed! :)







2015-02-23 7:30 GMT+02:00 Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>:

> Ulvi,
> "Communism is the riddle of history solved."
> https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/
> manuscripts/comm.htm#44CC4
> I don't have the answer. Do you? :)
> Andy6
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>
>
>
> Ulvi İçil wrote:
>
>> I respect other people's views. But I can not understand how, not the
>> working masses, but the educated and thinking people are so easily
>> deceived
>> by the rise of such pseudo-leftist movements like Syriza and Podemos in
>> Spain. It is a well-known fact that capitalist system never tolerates, put
>> aside encourages, a real working-class movement which truly represents the
>> interests of the working people to rise so easily whereas in the case of
>> Syriza it is just the opposite. Syriza's rise is facilitated by the
>> capital
>> because Syriza facilitates the management of capitalism's deep crisis. It
>> promised to do so, primarily to the capitalist system. This is apparent,
>> that it tries to ease the results of the crisis for the capitalist class,
>> and not the working-class. Syriza is another of innombrable experiences
>> whose main mission is to extend the life of this system which can give
>> nothing anymore to working-classes, especially to younger generations.
>> In capitalism, nobody opens your way so easily if you really question and
>> act truly against the interests of its dominant class.
>> I strongly propose to subscribe to www.solidnet.org in order to be able
>> to
>> be informed of the regular statements of kke, communist party of greece,
>> which increased its votes under such deceiving conditions.
>>
>> Paul Krugman has been really good on the Greek situation and his links are
>> even better.  He links to an economist who is stunned at the NYT position
>> (Krugman has a twice a week column for the NYT).  It is the third post
>> down
>> in the blog that convinced me that Syriza really knows what they're doing
>> and they are looking to extend the discussion over months (the opposite of
>> what Ireland did).  This is not what Krugman exactly says, but it fits
>> adding in a healthy does of critical thinking, a sprinkling of Marxism,
>> and
>> perhaps even a dash of cultural historical perspectives.
>>
>> Here is his blog in case anybody is interested.
>>
>> http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/?_r=0
>>
>> Michale
>>
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>> mike cole
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 11:51 AM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place
>> in
>> Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints
>>
>> One American assessment of what happened in Greece's efforts to break the
>> grip of Germany and the Eurozone. Active involvement of European workers
>> outside of Athens not particularly evident.
>> mike
>>
>>
>> Subject: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone,
>> and
>> Fiscal Restraints
>> To: lchcmike@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>      News Analysis A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone, and
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>> An agreement to extend Greece?s bailout for four months also committed the
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