[Xmca-l] Re: The history of science fiction and imagined worlds

[mike cole]

Just trying to keep some minimum level of continuity in the discussions,
Greg. Maybe its just my problem alone, but I think one or two others suffer
from the same difficulties.

My intention is to watch both and consider them together. If that's a
mistake, my loss! I do not watch TED talks as a general rule, but when they
are specifically called out by xmca members as relevant, seems like a
relatively painless way to figure out what other participants in the
discussion are trying to communicate.

Easier than reading, for example, *Who's Asking*?  !! :-)))

Rockin chair mike

Thanks

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I thought the other tread was beginning to descend into "reality" more than
> I care to (or perhaps worse, spiraling downward into the abyss of an
> epistemologically-minded social constructionism - is there a there there?).
>
> Seemed like good reason to soar in the imagination (yes, Mike, I know that
> you prefer to invert that metaphor and "ascend to the concrete" - which
> makes me wonder what you mean by "the concrete"? Reality? Or something
> else? A "made real"?).
>
> But I'd agree that it is on point with a "making"-oriented social
> constructionism (trying to avoid using that awful word "ontological"?).
>
> Anyway, I think this is the Haidt talk that John Cummins was proposing:
> http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind?language=en
>
> I'm wondering if people are a bit fed up with the Ted talks since it can be
> tough to find 20 minutes to watch/listen to a Ted talk and they can be hit
> or miss.
> But I would again strongly recommend the Saler talk I originally sent in
> this email. I thought David Ke, in particular, would find it interesting
> (or at least point out where it is wrong). David?
> Others?
> -greg
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:59 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > I thought the other tread involved imagination as a central component,
> > Greg.
> > So not clear why this is a distraction. (Or am i in the wrong
> conversation
> > here?).
> >
> > Can you find the Haight TED talk that was recommended to us? Perhaps the
> > two talks will aid the discussion.
> > mike
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Greg Thompson <
> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Apologies for distracting from the "real world" discussions on the
> other
> > > thread, but I came across this Ted talk and thought that others might
> be
> > > interested in the history and role of imagined worlds in politics:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUtErxgz7Mo
> > >
> > > But perhaps it is worth tracing otherworlds and "the otherwise" to
> works
> > > such as those of Jonathan Swift, Laurence Sterne, and Rabelais.
> > >
> > > Seems like imagining other worlds has always been a deeply political
> act.
> > >
> > > -greg
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Development and Evolution are both ... "processes of construction and re-
> > construction in which heterogeneous resources are contingently but more
> or
> > less reliably reassembled for each life cycle." [Oyama, Griffiths, and
> > Gray, 2001]
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>



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Development and Evolution are both ... "processes of construction and re-
construction in which heterogeneous resources are contingently but more or
less reliably reassembled for each life cycle." [Oyama, Griffiths, and
Gray, 2001]