[Xmca-l] Re: Foucault

[Martin John Packer]

Me too. I'm not sure who suggested that. Although I don't know the details, Sartre and Merleau-Ponty founded Socialisme et Liberté, which is described as a small intellectual resistance group, Both fought; Sartre was in a German prisoner of war camp. 

Foucault came to describe his work overall as a "historical ontology of ourselves." Certainly both Sartre and Merleau-Ponty were philosophers on ontology, and of history. 

Martin

>  i am uncomfortable with statements that suggest a one-to-one correspondence, or cause and effect, attributed to an instructor's teachings and a student's beliefs


On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:25 PM, White, Phillip <Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu> wrote:

> Martin, yes, Foucault did study with Merleau-Ponty  -  and for a while Foucault used a marxist-existentialist framework that Sartre and Merleau-Ponty developed - and in a few years Foucault distanced himself from such a framework, with a great deal of mockery, when he came to realize that Sartre and Merleau-Ponty played no part in the resistance against the nazis.  however, more to the point, i am uncomfortable with statements that suggest a one-to-one correspondence, or cause and effect, attributed to an instructor's teachings and a student's beliefs.  if that were the case there would have been far more nuns and priests in this world.  
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> perhaps i'm over-reacting.
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> phillip
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> Foucault did, however, study with Merleau-Ponty between 1946 and 1952 (obtaining his license in philosophy in 1948, in psychology in 1950, and a diploma in psychopathology in 1952). It was during this time that he first read Heidegger and Nietzsche. He studied with Hyppolite between 1954 and 1963. He inherited Hyppolite's chair at Collège de France in 1970.
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> Martin
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> On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:56 PM, White, Phillip <Phillip.White@ucdenver.edu> wrote:
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>> Michel Foucault would not recognize the assertion that he carried forth Maurice Merleau-Ponty's philosophy  -  case in point, the philosopher who most deeply impressed Foucault was Jean Hyppolite. it was to Hyppolite that Foucault never ceased to acknowledge his debt.  as for the influences on Butler, i can't tell.  however, following sociocultural learning theory, since we're not behaviorist we don't view the student as replicating the instruction of the teacher, but rather as one of collaboration, approximations, and often an individual or shared innovation.
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