Re: [xmca] Educational neuroscience

[Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>]

Thank you Michael,

Indeed her work is very interesting, I will go after it! Thank you.

Wagner

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, Wagner. It continued in Luria. It exists in its own way today in
> Brazil, if I am not mistaken in the work of Lucia Braga of the SARAH
> network's work on rehabilitation of children with perinatal and acquired
> brain damage.
>
> Luria's book,The Working Brain, is an interesting late summary of this
> approach to the use of the notion of psychological systems.
> The Man With A Shattered World (American translation title) is an
> accessible intro to the application of this approach.
> Mike
>
> On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, Wagner Luiz Schmit wrote:
>
>> Hello Huw,
>>
>> I like that text pretty much (I always returned to it in our research
>> group in Brazil and I will present it again this week to our research
>> group in Japan). And this text, acording to Leontiev, is from 1930...
>> But at the same time Leontiev, in a letter from this same year (if I
>> am not mistaken again) points to divergent way of thinking between
>> him, Luria and Vygotsky... I unfortunately know very little about
>> Luria (just read some texts) and even less about today Russian
>> neuroscience, does this proposal by Vygotsky continues in Luria? And
>> returning to the main topic, there is still neuroscience following
>> these guidelines?
>>
>> Wagner
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On 24 July 2013 15:38, Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Larry,
>> >>
>> >> Please say more... I think this is so important, and things point out
>> >> that Vygotsky also, otherwise why enter the Medicine course in 1930
>> >> (if my memory is not wrong)
>> >>
>> >> Wagner
>> >>
>> >
>> > "On Psychological Systems", collected works of LSV, v.3, p.105
>> >
>> > "In actual fact, it seems to me that by introducing the concept of
>> > psychological system in the form we discussed, we get a splendid
>> > possibility of conceiving the real connections, the real complex
>> > relationships that exist."
>> >
>> > "To a certain degree this also holds true for one of the most difficult
>> > problems -- the localization of higher psychological systems."
>> >
>> > Huw
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Ulvi,
>> >> >
>> >> > You mentioned you are interested in *cognitive CHANGE*.
>> >> >
>> >> > Within the concept  *neuroplasticity* is implicit Nero change.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a scholar in France [Catherine Malabou] whose central
>> conceptual
>> >> > thesis explores *plasticity* as from the Greek *to mold  or to model.*
>> >> > She moves the concepts of *dynamic* and *systems* and *theory* and
>> >> *neural*
>> >> > within the orbit of the central thesis of plasticity as change,
>> >> > transformation and metamorphosis.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure if this is too far off topic.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also want to mention *neo-Piagetian* theory including Vygotsky and
>> >> > Wittgenstein is being explored at SIMON Fraser University.
>> >> > If interested I could say more.
>> >> > Larry
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dear Andy and all, I found Kurt Fisher, he is at Harvard, Mind, Brain
>> >> and
>> >> >> Education.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> He is described as:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Piagetian_theories_of_cognitive_development
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fischer's theory differs from the other neo-Piagetian theories in a
>> >> number
>> >> >> of respects. One of them is in the way it explains cognitive change.
>> >> >> Specifically, although Fischer does not deny the operation of
>> >> information
>> >> >> processing constrains on development, he emphasizes on the
>> environmental
>> >> >> and social rather than individual factors as causes of development.
>> To
>> >> >> explain developmental change he borrowed two classic notions from Lev
>> >> >> Vygotsky,[12]<
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Piagetian_theories_of_cognitive_development#cite_note-12
>> >> >> >that
>> >> >> is, internalization and the zone of proximal development.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am rather interested in the application of the new findings in the
>> >> field
>> >> >> of educational neuroscience into the theory and practice of
>> education.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ulvi
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2013/7/23 Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Ulvi, best of luck in your search, and maybe someone on this list
>> can
>> >> >> > help. But don't get your hopes up.
>> >> >> > Lawrence Barsalou is a very sophisticated writer on neuroscience,
>> but
>> >> in:
>> >> >> >
>>
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