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Re: [xmca] Polls are closed: Manfred Holodynsk's article is choice



Carol's suggestion makes sense to me.

Helena 

On 3/30/13 10:02 PM, "carolmacdon@gmail.com" <carolmacdon@gmail.com> wrote:

>Is it possible that this is simply "common" understanding which is
>negotiated again and again and is subject to change over long periods
>like the work "toilet" which has changed time and again over the period
>of centuries. 
>
>Carol
>Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Raquel Guzzo <rguzzo@mpc.com.br>
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>Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:30:45
>To: <ablunden@mira.net>; eXtended Mind, Culture,
>Activity<xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Subject: Re: [xmca] Polls are closed: Manfred Holodynsk's article is
>choice
>
>
>Raquel S. L. Guzzo
>Pos-Graduação em Psicologia
>Centro de Ciências da Vida
>Pontifícia Universidade Católica de Campinas
>
>rguzzo@puc-campinas.edu.br
>rguzzo@pq.cnpq.br
>rguzzo@mpc.com.br
>
>On 30 Mar 2013, at 20:21, Andy Blunden wrote:
>
>> So what can be meant by "societal meaning" then, Helena? Material
>>objects (such as the bank building, and the various human bodies
>>involved, and books and ledgers, coins, etc.) are "societal" in the
>>sense of being universal. But "meaning" implies to me an act of
>>"interpretation" of material objects, something particular. And if the
>>Politburo is not there to ascribe the one societal meaning to material
>>things/processes/events, what on Earth can "societal meaning" be?
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Helena Worthen wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Before this gets too long, I'll just say that I agree, there is no
>>> omniscient observer to tell us what the "societal meaning" of something
>>> is. In fact, if Manfred and I were standing in line at that bank where
>>> this happened, it might be fun for us to compare our "personal sense"
>>>of
>>> what we saw.
>>> 
>>> Helena   
>> 
>> 
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