URe: [xmca] Victor Wooten: Music as a Language

[Bruce Robinson <bruce@brucerob.eu>]

Coincidentally just listened to Stephen Fry's radio programme on the English language on BBC Radio 4 which dealt with intonation, what it can convey and when particular patterns of sound are considered appropriate in spoken - largely UK - English. Emphasis, pitch patterns, sound shapes all implying shades of meaning or feeling which I think we recognise but aren't necessarily consciously aware of apart from adaptations required for talking to babies or dogs... 

Bruce R



Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

>Joseph,
>music can't be the only way that we "know" what words mean - otherwise
>this
>email would be completely incomprehensible and Chomsky would have been
>out
>of a job long ago!
>
>But you do point to a very important aspect of language that linguistic
>anthropologists refer to as "indexicality", and which most
>Enlightenment
>thinkers (following Kant, e.g., Chomsky) see as largely irrelevant to
>the
>meaning of language (what we might say is the polar opposite of your
>position, Joseph). So you present an important corrective. We should be
>cautious, though, how far in the other direction we let the pendulum
>swing...
>
>sometimes behave so strangely
>sometimes behave so strangely
>sometimes behave so strangely
>[I can still hear the music...]
>
>-greg
>
>
>On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Joseph Gilbert
><joeg4us@roadrunner.com>wrote:
>
>> The sound aspect of words is perceived as we perceive music. That is
>how
>> we "know" what it means. Music is the universal language. The sounds
>of our
>> words is the universal language. We are moved, literally, by the
>sounds of
>> our voices. The sounds of all our vowels and consonants relate to
>emotions.
>> Our world-view, shared by others within our language group, is
>established
>> by our experience of this emotional affect of our spoken words
>coupled with
>> their referential function. When we verbalize, we feel the sounds
>while
>> thinking of the things. Therefore we associate the feelings of the
>sounds
>> of our words with the things to which we refer with them. Of course,
>the
>> feelings are associated with the sounds of the words, not directly
>with the
>> things. If we did not associate the sounds with the things, we would
>not
>> have a clue as to the meaning of our world. This misassociation
>creates our
>> only consensus information as to the meaning of our world. We ORDer
>our
>> world with our wORD.
>>
>>                 Joseph Gilbert
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>>
>> > and I just remembered where I first heard this - on Radio Lab. Here
>is
>> the
>> > show, listen while you work...
>> >
>> > http://www.radiolab.org/2007/sep/24/behaves-so-strangely/
>> >
>> > -greg
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Greg Thompson <
>> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is the psychologist's version of speech to song:
>> >> http://philomel.com/asa156th/mp3/Sound_Demo_1.mp3
>> >>
>> >> for more, check out:
>> >> http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=212
>> >>
>> >> Be sure to listen through all of the demos (the first one is the
>longest
>> >> one), and listen to them in order.
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy...
>> >>
>> >> EVERYBODY SING:
>> >>
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >> sometimes behave so strangely
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Anton Yasnitsky
><the_yasya@yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Futhermore, language as music --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFZsm-dnBs
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> >> Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar
>> >> Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition
>> >> Department of Communication
>> >> University of California, San Diego
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>University of California, San Diego
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