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Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren
- To: ablunden@mira.net, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
- Subject: Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren
- From: Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 01:01:11 +0100
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They're of no consequence for those deaf to reason. ;)
Huw
On 4 June 2012 10:53, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> And here's about deaf-blind people:
> http://www.marxists.org/**archive/meshcheryakov/**awakening/index.htm<http://www.marxists.org/archive/meshcheryakov/awakening/index.htm>
>
> Andy
>
>
> Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
>
>> According to Gallaudet University (which is for deaf people),
>> http://research.gallaudet.edu/**Demographics/deaf-US.php<http://research.gallaudet.edu/Demographics/deaf-US.php>
>> There are a number of listings of deaf people of influence, e.g.,
>> http://www.start-american-**sign-language.com/famous-deaf-**people.html<http://www.start-american-sign-language.com/famous-deaf-people.html>
>> http://www.op97.org/teach-**learn/documents/**PeopleWhoAreDeaf.pdf<http://www.op97.org/teach-learn/documents/PeopleWhoAreDeaf.pdf>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**List_of_deaf_people<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaf_people>
>> http://www.deafpeople.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.**ucsd.edu<xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>]
>> On Behalf Of Joseph Gilbert
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:12 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren
>>
>> Peter,
>> What percentage of any population is deaf and what influence do they
>> exert upon the world-view of their society?
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I also wonder, what about deaf people?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca- bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>> On Behalf Of Vera John-Steiner
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:54 PM
>>> To: 'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'
>>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Francois Cooren
>>>
>>> Hi Joseph
>>> I wonder whether the ultimate finality of the word--"everything is
>>> relative to the word"--provides a too narrow, monistic view.
>>> Euclidean geometry is rich in proofs which are presented through visual
>>> abstraction. These can be explained verbally but their persuasive power is
>>> visual.
>>> This is an interesting though wandering discussion from toes to Euclid.
>>> Vera
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca- bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>> On Behalf Of Joseph Gilbert
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:32 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren
>>>
>>> Nothing communicates as profoundly as vocal sounds, - motions of the
>>> human body -. Everything is named, - identified -, by sounds made by our
>>> body. Our own body-emotional goings on is the currency by which all else is
>>> valued. We relate to our world with our word.
>>> Everything is reletive to the word. The "final word" on anything IS the
>>> word.
>>> The only handle we have on the meaning of our world is the effect on us
>>> of the sounds of our words. We can prove nothing and can only feel our
>>> vocal sounds for information of how we are affected by things. It takes
>>> different words to communicate different information. Bear in mind that
>>> words are fundamentally sounds and secondarily, referential tools. When we
>>> refer to a thing, the referential tool is between ourselves and the thing.
>>> We perceive and are affected by the tool - the word - first and foremost
>>> and then also by the thought of the referred-to thing. Subliminally, the
>>> word defines the thing:
>>> Consciously, the thing defines the word.
>>>
>>> Joseph Gilbert
>>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone out there know much about Francois Cooren or the Montreal School
>>>> of Organizational Communication?
>>>>
>>>> As for the former, Cooren's book Action and Agency in Dialogue asks:
>>>> "What if human interactants were not the only ones to be considered,
>>>> paraphrasing Austin (1962), as "doing things with words"? That is, what if
>>>> other "things" could also be granted the status of agents in a dialogical
>>>> situation?"
>>>>
>>>> As for the latter, the MSOC is characterized by wikipedia as:
>>>> "taking communication as the "site and surface" of organizations,
>>>> meaning that the latter emerge from and are maintained by communication
>>>> processes."
>>>>
>>>> Both of these seem to be very important points that, I thought,
>>>> articulate well with recent XMCA conversations.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any insight?
>>>> Perhaps a recommendation?
>>>> -greg
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>> Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar Laboratory of Comparative Human
>>>> Cognition Department of Communication University of California, San Diego
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