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Re: [xmca] Body expression as sign.

Those who penned the bible had a sense of the importance of the word. They may not have had an in depth and detailed understanding. That they said that in the beginning of something was the word indicates that they had at least a glimmer of awareness of something that spoken-word language began. They don't say what it began. What could it possibly have begun? What does spoken word language do for us that, without it, we would not have? It enables us to attach sounds made by our bodies to things in our world. Through that relationship between certain body sounds and particular things, we seem to gain a sense of the meaning of the things that make up our world, thereby gaining a sense of security. In the beginning of our culturally- transmitted sense of the meaning and order of our world was the word. And that word supplied us with a ready-made sense of meaning and that word was our sense of meaning, the one we shared with all who spoke as we did, all those who spoke the Mother Tongue. With our spoken word, we could/can "make sense", (through our sense of hearing), all that we can name. Name it and claim it. That we experience the feeling of the sound of a word simultaneously with the thought of that to which it refers, causes us to assume that the feeling is the property of the thing and reveals its effect upon us, (its meaning). Obviously, the feeling we experience by the sound of a word is the affect of that sound, not of that thing. A word is a thing in its own right and affects us as the sound that it is. We allow, for convenience and for the sake of being informed of our linguistic ancestors' world-view, ourselves to relate to the world through language, to "fly by the instruments" calibrated by those who generated our language-culture. 
	This is why language is as important as it is.

		Joseph Carroll Gilbert

On May 27, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Andy Blunden wrote:


What do you mean by "In the beginning was the word.......", Joe?
Andy
joeg4us@roadrunner.com wrote:
It is crucial to understand that we experience only a SENCE of meaning from our words, not an "absolute knowing" of meaning. But, in the absence of any other given experience of meaning available to us, we allow that emotional sense of meaning that we experience with the sounds of our words to supply us with our operating premise, our foundational world-view. By acting as though we can somehow arrive at a state of final knowing of meaning, we send ourselves on an endless quest for that understanding by compulsively verbalizing, - both vocally and mentally - and, of course, we never achieve that elusive state. Only by realizing the relativity of our informational inputs can we acknowledge the real source of our SENCE of knowing, the effects of the sounds of our words. We simply associate, subliminally, those effects with those things to which we refer verbally. "In the beginning was the word......." ---- Christine Schweighart <schweighartc@gmail.com> wrote:
Well put Jack - I will look out for suggestions as this forum is quite 
helpful.
I have greatest part of the Pg research training certificate requirement at Hull completed with no difficulty, just the upgrade proposal to prepare. I am, though, intercalating at present. My father died at the end of April 
and as I cared for him in his last years I miss him very much.
Valilyuk's work, when I return to write about how I value it, will be reviewed from my experiential pool afresh. Particularly his view that value formation emerges from a work of creating an aesthetic from reflection upon ( energetic) emotional response- in a cycle. So to the relation of dynamics with energy that you mention 'aesthetic' seems to be integral. 

Love Christine.
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jack Whitehead <jack@actionresearch.net>wrote: 



On 23 May 2012, at 17:24, Joseph Gilbert wrote:
Let us remember that spoken-word language is composed of sounds made by
the body, sounds that issue forth as expressions of emotions and that cause hearers bodies to assume patterns of motion analogous to those in the generators of the sounds. Thereby motion and emotion are transferred from originators to receivers. It is that sense of emotion, that we experience by our spoken words, that provides us with a sense of meaning. Our own emotion is the bottom line of our sense of meaning. Things have meaning only in as much, and in how, they affect us. And our emotions are the way we experience effects. Our words deal in the currency of meaning - our emotions - , and they refer to things. Because of this dual nature, words - the very things that identify things - inform us of the meaning of our world simply by affecting our emotions with their sounds. Since we are 
normally preoccupied with the referential aspect of words, it is
subconsciously that we experience their emotional effects.


              Joseph Gilbert
Dear Joseph Gilbert (and all), I like very much your points about emotion. I'm also like the point below from Vasilyuk about energy and motivation, energy and meaning and energy and values. I'm wondering if anyone has any references you can send me that can help me to understand how to represent flows of energy with values, in explanatory principles that can be used in 
explanations of educational influences in learning?
Vasilyuk, F. (1991) The Psychology of Experiencing: the Resolution of 
Life’s Critical Situations.  Hemel Hempstead; Harvester Wheatsheaf.

“The Energy Paradigm
Conceptions involving energy are very current in psychology, but they have been very poorly worked out from the methodological standpoint. It is 
not clear to what extent these conceptions are merely models of our
understanding and to what extent they can be given ontological status. Equally problematic are the conceptual links between energy and motivation, energy and meaning, energy and value, although it is obvious that in fact there are certain links: we know how ‘energetically’ a person can act when positively motivated, we know that the meaningfulness of a project lends additional strength to the people engaged in it, but we have very little 
idea of how to link up into one whole the physiological theory of
activation, the psychology of motivation, and the ideas of energy which 
have been elaborated mainly in the field of physics. (p.63-64)



Love Jack.
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When Martin Dobson, a colleague, died in 2002 the last thing he said to me was 'Give my Love to the Department'. In the 20 years I'd worked with Martin it was his loving warmth of humanity that I recall with great life affirming pleasure and I'm hoping that in Love Jack we can share this 
value of common humanity.

Jack Whitehead , Professor, Liverpool Hope University, UK.

Visiting Fellow, University of Bath, UK.

Life-time member of OMNIBUS (All Bath University Staff).

web-site http://www.actionresearch.net with email address.



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