Martin,
Perhaps it is a typo but otherwise your chapter 7 makes no sense. Paulhan (Frederick Paulhan who I mentioned in the last message) seemed to clearly say sense and meaning (although I don't speak French so I am still getting it from translation. Why then would Vygotsky say Paulhan introduced the distinction between meaning and meaning. By introducing Paulhan, who was very influential around the turn of the century I think he may be separating sense and meaning discussion from the other discussions you mentioned. I think at the time this was a big thing.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [xmca] concepts
In five of the eight chapters (counting the preface) of T&S, LSV introduces a distinction that he insists is important if we are to correctly understand how speech has psychological consequences. In each case the distinction seems different, and his terminology varies accordingly: we have word meaning, inner aspect, external and internal structure, sense and reference, sense and signification. I've summarized these below, ordered by chapter, and cited the Russian where it is available to me. I have also suggested some possible sources for these distinctions. Any help figuring this out further would be greatly appreciated!
Martin
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Preface (1934?): the meanings of words
"word meanings [???????? ????] develop in children"
Chapter 1 (1933-34): Inner aspect of the word [?????????? ??????? ?????]
"what is such unit, which cannot be further resolved and in which the properties are inherently contained in verbal thinking as whole? To us it seems that this unit can be found in the internal aspect of the word [?????????? ??????? ?????], in its meaning [????????.]."
von Humboldt?
Shpet?
Chapter 2 (1932): none
Chapter 3 (1932?): none
Chapter 4 (1929): external structure [??????? ??????????] and internal structure [?????????? ??????????]
"the child, as we saw, grasps the external structure earlier than the internal one; the child seizes the external structure: word-thing, which only later becomes a symbolic structure." [???????, ??? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ??????? ??????????, ??? ??????????. ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????????: ????? - ????, ??????? ??? ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????.]
Chapter 5 (1931): sense and reference
"The first thing that we can learn from contemporary linguistics is that, according to Peterson, it is essential to distinguish between the meaning of a word or expression and its objective reference, i.e. the objects which this word or expression indicates." [??????, ??? ?? ?????? ?? ???????????? ???????????, ??? ??, ??? ?????????? ????????, ?? ????????? ?????????, ???????? ????? ??? ????????? ?? ??????????? ?????????, ?.?. ?? ??? ?????????, ?? ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ????????? ?????????.]
"So contemporary linguistics does make a distinction between the meaning and the objective reference of words." [????? ???????, ??????????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ???????????? ?????]
Gottleib Frege?
Edmund Husserl?
Chapter 6 (1934): none
Chapter 7: (1933-34): sense [??????? ] and signification [?????????]
"The first of these is the predominant sense of the word over its meaning in speech inner. Paulhan rendered a great service to the psychological analysis of speech by introducing the distinction between the meaning of the word and its meaning." [?? ????? ? ????? ????????????? ?????????? ??? ????? ???????? ???????????, ????????? ????????? ????? ????? ? ?????????? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ????. ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???????????????? ??????? ???? ???, ??? ???? ???????? ????? ??????? ????? ? ??? ?????????.]
Paulhan?
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