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Re: [xmca] Pragmatism's Advantage



Unfortunately I know nothing of Friere, but this is surely something that has to be addressed! There are several people on this list who are Friere experts, perhaps they can help.
But what you comment on re the reading of Hegel is quite correct. In his 
very early manuscripts Hegel talks about how the universal is 
constructed. This is two things at once: (1) the construction of a 
material culture (land, domestic animals, tools, words, ...) and (2) the 
acquisition of concepts by individuals who use them. EG he said "the 
tool is the norm of labour" (f Engestrom who has tools /and/ norms!) and 
"Word - the tool of reason"
After about 1805 he stops talking like this. But it is implicit in his 
idea of Spirit, which dates from  1805. Also, Herder was teaching at 
Jena until he died in 1808, and Hegel would have known about this from 
Herder, but he never gave Herder any credit.
Andy

Tony Whitson wrote:
This being my semester teaching undergraduates, I have not had time for following this list.
I did catch this post from Andy, though, which for me is quite 
exciting and provocative.
Andy: > How do you read Hegel? What do you make of Spirit? and so on. 
My answer is
"Activity." Read this way Hegel makes perfect sense.
Me: If the _formation_ of Geist be understood as the the formation of 
semiosically _in*formed_ activity, this (it seems to me) goes a long 
way toward a synlexic framing of not only Marx and Hegel, but also 
Peirce, Mead, LSV, and activity theory. Am I taking this too far?
I am making my first toddler steps toward reading Freire in the 
Portuguese (well, at least "reading" it side-by-side with the 
English). While I intend to be alert to differences among the 
discourses, what I am seeing at the outset is a Freirean discourse 
clearly informed by Hegel, but also strikingly compatible with my own 
Peircean proclivities.
What do you think?

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Andy Blunden wrote:

Well, it's tasty enough for me.
I long ago decided I had to read Marx via Hegel, since Marx was not inclined to spell out philosophical positions. How do you read Hegel? What do you make of Spirit? and so on. My answer is "Activity." Read this way Hegel makes perfect sense.
Andy
(Thanks for my new word for the week, Denise)

Denise Newnham wrote:
Sounds like a Dakari :) hope it just as good

Denise

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Subject: Re: [xmca] Pragmatism's Advantage

Very interesting Larry. For people who don't know Vygotsky &c. I describe my own philosophy as "Hegelian-Marxism with a pragmatist twist" - the pragmatist twist being Vygotsky &c. People from "the other two approaches" I think get some idea of where we're coming from that way.
andy


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