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Re: [xmca] LSV's use of metaphor
One of the well known metaphors from the Historical Meaning of the
Psychological Crisis is "Psyche is the islands of safety in the Heraclitean
stream." And further , '...it (psyche) is a sieve filtering the world."
Below is the Russian original and English translation. The translation is
not quite adequate, consciousness is used instead of psyche and the metaphor
is destroyed, because instead of saying " Psyche IS the islands of
safety..." it is translated as " It PROVIDES islands of safety in the
Heraclitean stream."
Elina
«Собственная проблема психологии заключена в ограниченности нашего
непосредственного опыта, потому что вся психика построена по типу
инструмента, который выбирает, изолирует отдельные черты явлений; глаз,
который видел бы все, именно поэтому не видел бы ничего; сознание, которое
сознавало бы все, ничего бы не сознавало, и самосознание, если бы сознавало
все, не сознавало бы ничего. Наш опыт заключен между двумя порогами, мы
видим лишь маленький отрезок мира; наши чувства дают нам мир в выдержках,
извлечениях, важных для нас. Внутри порогов они опять отмечают не все
многообразие применений, а переводят их опять через новые пороги. Сознание
как бы прыжками следует за природой, с пропусками, пробелами. Психика
выбирает устойчивые точки действительности среди всеобщего движения. *Она
есть островки безопасности в гераклитовом потоке. Она есть орган отбора,
решето, процеживающее мир и изменяющее его так, чтобы можно было
действовать. В этом ее положительная роль - не в отражении [*отражает и
непсихическое; термометр точнее, чем ощущение), а в том, чтобы не всегда
верно отражать, т.е. субъективно искажать действительность в пользу
организма» [Выготский Л.С. Собр. соч. Т.1. — С. 347].
"A consciousness that was aware of everything would be aware of nothing, and
knowledge of theself, were it aware of everything, would be aware of
nothing. Our knowledge is confined between two thresholds, we see but a tiny
part of the world. Our senses give us the world in the excerpts, extracts
that are important for us. And in between the thresholds it is again not the
whole variety of changes which is registered, and new thresholds exist.
Consciousness follows nature in a saltatory fashion as it were, with blanks
and gaps. The mind selects the stable points of reality amidst the universal
movement. It provides islands of safety in the Heraclitean stream. It is an
organ of selection, a sieve filtering the world and changing it so that it
becomes possible to act. In this resides its positive role – not in
reflection (the non-mental reflects as well; the thermometer is more precise
than sensation), but in the fact that it does not always reflect correctly,
i.e., subjectively distorts reality to the advantage of the organism."
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:40 PM, philchappell <philchappell@mac.com> wrote:
> Which immediately brings to mind the "zone of actual development". Then
> what about the "buds of development", "flowers of development" and "fruits
> of development"?
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> On 08 Oct, 2010,at 09:36 AM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> :-)
>> Slippery these metaphors!
>> Can I toss in "Zone of proximal development" along with vryaychivanie and
>> "Consciousness is reflected in the word like the sun is reflected in a
>> drop
>> of water" (1987, p. 285)?
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Colette Murphy <c.a.murphy@qub.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I was thinking more of the type of toy trains that my brothers would
>> have
>> > played with - very, very independently moving coaches! But, come to
>> think of
>> > it, some coaches often fell off - ouch. But seriously, I do like the
>> idea
>> > that the teacher is like a little bit of track - the coaches arrive from
>> > soemwhere and travel for a little distance along a path directed by the
>> > teacher before they go elsewhere on their journey of life..
>> > colette
>> >
>> > Dr Colette Murphy
>> > Senior Lecturer
>> > School of Education
>> > 69 University St
>> > Queen's University
>> > Belfast BT7 1HL
>> >
>> > tel: 02890975953
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf
>> > Of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: 07 October 2010 23:05
>> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > Subject: Re: [xmca] LSV's use of metaphor
>> >
>> > Woa, not so sure about the train track metaphor. The train moves freely
>> up
>> > and down a pre-scribed
>> > track and the only thing that can vary "independently" is speed!
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I have on my table a violin string. It is free. I twist one end of it and it
responds. It is free. But it's not free to do what a violin string is
supposed to do - to produce music. So I take it, fix it in my violin and
tighten it until it is taut. Only then is it free to be a violin string.
-Sir Rabindranath Tagore
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