Re: [xmca] FW: ScienceDaily: Parts Of Brain Involved In SocialCognition May Be In Place By Age Six

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

Never mind, Em. I would be surprised if Andy misinterpreted your remark, but
he can speak for himself when he wakes up!

Re the article summary you posted: " Parts Of Brain Involved In Social
Cognition May Be In Place By Age Six." Having read it I can see how you
related to Carl's statement but i do not think claims about the "parts of
the brain being in place" and "There is no
longer an interaction of biological and social determinants of behavior (at
age 6) are anything like saying the same thing.
l
The developmental social cognition piece itself would be well worth
discussing if people wanted to, along with other research in what people
call "social neuroscience" which has some very interesting implications for
thinking about human development. That line of work could use some serious
critical examination from a Vygotsky-Luria perspective.
With respect to the article you pointed us at we might ask  what is meant by
"parts of the brain," what is meant by "in place" and what the relations
between them might be.

mike
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu> wrote:

> I'm sorry Carol (and Andy), I know Andy, and certainly agree with you.
> I was simply joking as he provides so much for us all. I did not mean
> any disrespect what so ever!
> ~em
>
>
> Emily Duvall, PhD
> Assistant Professor of Curriculum & Instruction
> Assistant Professor of Neuroscience
> University of Idaho, Coeur d'Alene
> 1031 North Academic Way, Suite 242 | Coeur d'Alene, ID 83814
> T 208 292 2512 | F 208 667 5275 emily@uidaho.edu | www.cda.uidaho.edu
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> On Behalf Of Carol Macdonald
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:16 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity; Andy Blunden
> Subject: Re: [xmca] FW: ScienceDaily: Parts Of Brain Involved In
> SocialCognition May Be In Place By Age Six
>
> Emily
> Please do not refer to "that Andy Blunden guy" -- he is building some of
> the
> best theory of Activity, and understands the origins of LSV thinking
> better
> than most of us.
>
> Write to him--he is always at his computer and he answers courteously
> even
> to my dim questions.
>
> *ablunden@mira.net>*
>
> Carol
>
>
> On 17 September 2010 19:23, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I'm forwarding this piece as I think it is pretty interesting not so
> > much with regard to autism (although that is definitely interesting),
> > but with regard to understanding the development of higher mental
> > functions, specifically in terms of the age range being discussed
> below.
> > This is also the crucial age for Vygotsky with the social, thinking
> > about Thought and Language specifically.
> > As Ratner states, in this regard,
> > " By seven years of age, most natural determinants of behavior have
> died
> > out and the basis of behavior is overwhelmingly cultural, and Vygotsky
> > repeatedly stresses this qualitative transformation. There is no
> longer
> > an interaction of biological and social determinants of behavior. At
> > this point, the child's individuality is a function of her particular
> > social experience, which has increased exponentially over the years
> > (i.e., more in the later years, less in the early years). The manner
> in
> > which others have reacted to her behavior and physical traits (such as
> > beauty, gender, and skin color) replaces biological determinants of
> > behavior." (Ratner,  Child Psychology: Vygotsky's Conception of
> > Psychological Development,
> http://www.sonic.net/~cr2/vygdev.htm<http://www.sonic.net/%7Ecr2/vygdev.htm>
> <http://www.sonic.net/%7Ecr2/vygdev.
> htm <http://www.sonic.net/%7Ecr2/vygdev.%0Ahtm>>)
> >
> > I see a link here, too, with the work by that Andy Blunden guy
> > (supported by discussions with Cole and Kellogg)
> >
> (http://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/comment/vygotsky-on-deve
> >
> lopment.pdf<http://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/comment/vygot
> sky-on-deve%0Alopment.pdf<http://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/comment/vygot%0Asky-on-deve%0Alopment.pdf>>)
> who discuss development and the "Crisis at
> age 7" - this
> > very nice discussion, I think, and really illuminates the research
> > below. I highly recommend it to those interested metacognition.
> >
> > Parts Of Brain Involved In Social Cognition May Be In Place By Age Six
> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090715074930.htm
> >
> >
> > By scanning the brains of children ages 6 to 11 as they listened to
> > children's stories, researchers have for the first time investigated
> > brain regions associated with social cognition in human children.
> > Researchers found that one of the brain regions, the right
> > tempero-parietal junction, appeared to change its function between the
> > ages of 6 and 11. This research has implications for the study of
> > atypical social development, as happens in autism.
> >
> > ~em
> >
> >
> > Emily Duvall, PhD
> > Assistant Professor of Curriculum & Instruction
> > Assistant Professor of Neuroscience
> > University of Idaho, Coeur d'Alene
> > 1031 North Academic Way, Suite 242 | Coeur d'Alene, ID 83814
> > T 208 292 2512 | F 208 667 5275 emily@uidaho.edu | www.cda.uidaho.edu
> >
> > He only earns his freedom and his life, who takes them every day by
> > storm.
> > -- Johann Wolfgang Goethe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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