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Re: [xmca] Human Sciences linking with CHAT



Hi Patrick
Here is a copy of the chapter article outlining the themes of "human
Science" and the centrality of values, agency, and teleology as CENTRAL
themes to be foregrounded in sociocultural accounts of being human.

Larry

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Patrick Jaki <patrick.jaki@gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Larry,
>
> I was interested in the chapter you downloaded on values. Do you perhaps
> have a link or a pdf somewhere.
>
> Regards.
> Jaki
>
> On 12 July 2010 07:40, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin and Mike
> >
> > I'm away from the internet on the "gulf Islands" off of Vancouver.  I
> have
> > to go to the library in the village to get on the web.
> > However, yesterday I downloaded the chapter on human sciences and
> learning
> > and I want to say how powerfully the article speaks to me.
> >
> > It puts at the forefront the fundamental need to explicitly discuss
> values
> > and explaining how we ought to proceed.  It then speaks to agency but
> more
> > explicitly MORAL agency and says it is a very slippery concept.  I agree
> it
> > is slippery but also fundamental to notions of learning. Learning in
> > schools
> > is about developing moral agency and I welcome the explicit call to
> examine
> > various accounts of moral agency.  The 3rd framework asking us to
> > be explicit about our teleological assumptions is also a fundamental
> point
> > of discussion when we explore where we believe we are headed in the
> future.
> > Finally, the question, Who gets to decide? is of central importance to
> > notions of mutuality in learning.
> > It is my hope that others on CHAT see these as central questions to
> > explore.  Kevin, you mentioned human sciences embrace the "interpretive
> > turn" and there is also discussions of the "relational turn" and the
> > "sociocultural turn" which I see as challenging "the linquistic turn" and
> > "postmodernism" and returning the focus to values and "traditions" and
> > "forms of life".  Activity and mediation are central concepts in the
> human
> > sciences as you outlined but it is moral activity and questioning how we
> > ought to proceed that is central to activity.
> >
> > Kevin, you  mention that history as  a discipline is a core area of
> inquiry
> > in the human sciences and learning.  From this perspective "thinking"
> [how
> > we conceptualize the processes of conceptualizing] is a historical
> process.
> > >From this perspective the history of philosophy is the history of
> > thinking.
> > Thinking develops historically as documented in the history of
> philosophy.
> > Therefore thinking as a human science can gain insights by exploring how
> we
> > have historically conceptualized conceptualizing.
> > For example is the metaphor of thinking "as reading text" the dominant
> > metaphor or is the metaphor of speech "as dialogue" a better metaphor of
> > thinking or the more recent metaphor of thinking as "information
> > processing"
> > the dominant metaphor?  By historical inquiry into the history of
> > philosophy
> > learning as a human science can be enriched and our horizons of
> > understanding expanded.
> >
> > Larry
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