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Re: [xmca] The Non-modular Mind

Your little shift with the term "My only objection" is what I've learned

is actually the core issue of evaluating the "common good" or "common dread"
of this powerful tool.

I also struggle between the power of the internet as a forum of EMERGING
DYNAMIC IMAGINARIES  [emerging traditions]  that challenge any
presuppositions I have [what I at the moment take to be "normal"] and the
power of a book to consolidate and anchor these emerging ideas.  My hunch is
that the emerging "tradition" of CONSTITUTIVE sociocultural psychology is
partially emerging as a developmental consequence of the internet [which I
believe has the power to radically change our notions of "education" and
"psychology" and also has the power to develop new psychological accounts

Michael mentioned he is trying to get a PDF of the Sluencko and Hengl
article from the "handbook of  Sociocultural Psychology"
In the spirit in which that book was written, I want to recommend a new book
which I believe will draw us away from the internet to consolidate these
emerging ideas. The book "The Sociocultural Turn in Psychology" by SUZANNE
KIRSCHNER and JACK MARTIN" seems to bring together in one volume most of the
various theories in the new CONSTITUTIVE sociocultural psychology.
If you go to goggle books and read the EXCERPT of the book published on line
it gives an excellent summary of the last two decades of work in this
The book suggests their are 4 theoretical accounts that are interconnecting
in this developing tradition.

1]  Discursive and social constructionism
2]  Hermeneutic realism
3]  Dialogical
4] neo-Vygotskian CHAT

Its interesting that they discussed social relational psychoanalysis as a
tradition within this tradition but left it out of this book because this
account is being developed outside of university settings.

Michael Cole has a chapter in this book as a representative of the 4th

A brief comment on JACK MARTIN, one of the editors of this volume.  He has
recently co-published an article with Alex Gillespie and both these authors
are ELABORATING a NEO-MEADIAN account of development that I personally
believe is a coherent account of how "agency" and "self" emerge through
levels of social participation {MEAD'S SOCIAL ACTS}.  I have not seen Mead's
CONSTITUTIVE SOCIAL RELATIONAL account of development throughout the
lifespan [as articulated by Jack Martin and Alex Gillespie} discussed on
CHAT. Having their chapter in this book will bring this particular
developmental account into wider discussion within the developmental
community. It is written withiin a historiogenetic as well as ontogenetic

The book that Jack Martin and Suzanne Kirschner have written seems to have
promise to make more coherent the various themes and threads that are
currently developing a taprestry called "constitutive sociocultural

I'm curious how others view these competing notions of development and what
are common themes and where they need further analysis. I was excited to
learn about this book as I see the many ideas that often keep me up nights,
collected in one anthology.

Have any of you already got a copy of the book?
Both the authors have previously been the president of the "Theory and
Philosophy" section of the APA so have the recognition of their peers.

I'm hoping to track down this book and try to remember how to read for hours
at a time or is my mind now an "internet mind?"
As a personal evaluation, this format leads be to books such as Jack
Martin's which I would be ignorant of without this tool.


On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Enjoyed the "Google is rotting your brain" article. There is no doubt that
> I suffer from this syndrome. The only way I can get through a decent book
> nowadays is by taking myself right away from the screen. And I then miss it.
> My only objection would be that if it weren't for everything that I've
> learnt via the internet (like with xmca) then I wouldn't be able to, or even
> want to, read these good books in any case.
> Andy
> mike cole wrote:
>> I heard the book written about below discussed on NPR earlier this week,
>> and
>> your note induced me to dig out and send along. Seems relevant to your
>> comments.
>> mike
>> http://www.salon.com/books/laura_miller/2010/05/09/the_shallows
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