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Re: [xmca] help: Vygotsky and pedology

Fair point, Anton. I didn't check it because I didn't feel I qualified as someone 'familiar with Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko', though I did 'know about the existence of such person'. I've read some of his work but I know nothing about the person beyond that. I have always tended to confuse the two Zinchenkos; are they father and son? I have checked it now, of course, and from your comment I guess there must be a gross factual error in that little paragraph. But I can't tell. I'll have to trust you. 

Andy

Anton Yasnitsky wrote:

Andy,

I am under the impression you did not check out the link, specifically, the quote in English. If not, please, feel free to do so. Just in case, here is the link again:

http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/27712.html

Please let us know if you do not believe this example counts as a justification.

Anton




----- Original Message ----
From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 8:12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] help: Vygotsky and pedology

Anton,
When political leaders in my country tell you that another person is a fool but don't have time to justify their claim they say: "Trust me!" 

Andy

Anton Yasnitsky wrote:

Here is my first reaction to Eugene's question, the rest will follow when I find time to fully enjoy the paper in question:

Below is the link to my favourite example of Holowinsky's scholarship that can be best appreciated by anybody familiar with Vladimir Petrovich Zinchenko, or who at least knows about the existence of such person and the basics of his genealogy:

http://community.livejournal.com/psyhistorik/27712.html

Enjoy :)





----- Original Message ----
From: Eugene Matusov <ematusov@udel.edu>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 4:13:32 PM
Subject: RE: [xmca] help: Vygotsky and pedology

Dear Anton-

Can you elaborate on Holowinsky's points in his article that you view as
wrong, please? And what is your basis for this criticism? I'm asking these
questions not because I want to challenge your views but because I want to
learn more about this interesting and potentially influential history and
you are a specilist in this area.

Thanks,

Eugene
PS I was surprised to read in Holowinsky's article about Makarenko's
opposition to pedology. Do you know more about that, by any chance?
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-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Yasnitsky
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:55 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] help

If I may add a comment, the author, as a rule,  presents a lot of

ridiculous--to

say just "erroneous" would be a gross understatement--stuff in his

writings,

so I would like to thank Mike for the paper and am anticipating a really
hilarious reading :)

Anton



----- Original Message ----
From: Joao <jbmartin@sercomtel.com.br>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 9:11:14 PM
Subject: [xmca] help

Hi...
I need to find the paper "Vygotsky and the History of Pedology" of Ivan Z.
Holowinsky. (School Psychology International, v. 9, 1988) Can anyone help
me?

Thanks

Joao Martins


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