Re: [xmca] Russian-American collaborations, historically speaking

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

SPASIBO!!
mike

2010/3/8 Татьяна Ахутина <akhutina@rambler.ru>

> Дорогой Майк,
>
> Инна Владимировна Равич-Щербо, психогенетик, писала в комментарии к статье
> АРЛ "О природе психологических функций и ее изменчивости в свете
> генетического анализа" о том, что в Медико-генетическом институте в 30 гг.
> под руководством АРЛ работали позднее ставшим известным генетиком B. Price и
> генетик S.L Halperin. И статья и комментарий опубликованы в Вопросах
> психологии в 2002 г, No.4, т.е. в Лурьевском юбилейном номере. В сборнике
> докладов по Лурьевской конференции "А.Р. Лурия и психология ХХ! века"
> опубликована статья И.В. Равич-Щербо и N.L.Sigal, где дано больше деталей на
> эту тему.
>
> Конечно, АРЛ был ключевой фигурой в российско- американском сотрудничестве
> в области психологии. Я уже писала Антону, что на том фоне, который он
> детально представил в своей статье, хорошо бы было детально описать роль ЛСВ
> и АРЛ в зарождении и продолжении этого сотрудничества.
>
> Таня
>
>
> * Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com> [Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:29:11 -0800
> (PST)]:
>
> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Curiously enough, fairly recently I finished a lengthy paper exactly
>>
> on
>
>> this fascinating topic, i.e. international contacts of Soviet
>>
> psychology
>
>> in the interwar period, and am now continuing the investigation
>>
> further
>
>> into the Cold War times. The paper is unfortunately--at this point--in
>> Russian only. I submitted the manuscript to one of the journals out
>> there and they seem to have liked it. Anyway, this is all to say that
>> your Russian correspondent should feel free to contact me with
>>
> inquiries
>
>> if needed, and I guess I might be of help to her in case she has
>> specific questions in mind. Possibly, we find it interesting and
>> mutually beneficial to collaborate on the topic with this Russian
>> colleague of ours.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> Cc: tanja akhutina <akhutina@rambler.ru>; Vladimir Zinchenko
>> <ZinchRAE@mtu-net.ru>; Galina Zuckerman
>>
> <galina_zuckerman@hotmail.com>;
>
>> Karl Levitin <c.levitin@l-card.ru>
>> Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 11:08:20 PM
>> Subject: [xmca] Russian-American collaborations, historically speaking
>>
>> Anton, Jean, Bella, Anna, et. al--
>>
>> I have been corresponding with a Russian colleague about the history
>> of Russian-American collaborations/mutual influences in psychology. I
>> wonder if you could help fill out this picture?
>>
>> Up to the early 1920's I really know of nothing. Perhaps Sechenov was
>> influenced
>> by and influenced people in the U.S. Or perhaps it was just an
>> undifferentiated
>> zeitgeist.
>>
>> Horsely Gantt translated Pavlov, who certainly had a big influence in
>> the
>> U.S. and later
>> Luria. He was influenced, in his work, but i know of no mutual
>> collaboration
>> other than the
>> translations. Luria interacted with Americans as a result of his visit
>> to
>> the US in 1929, but
>> so far as I know, the collaborations were at the level of journal
>> editing,
>> prefaces, and
>> that sort of thing. There were also interactions around
>>
> psychoanalysis,
>
>> but
>> i think that was
>> mostly with Europeans.
>>
>> Some like to think that Dewey and Vygotsky met and were mutually
>> influenced,
>> but that never
>> has seemed likely to me. The influence of Dewey on Russian psychology
>> seems
>> clear, but the
>> reverse doubtful at best.
>>
>> Hebert Mueller (sp?) the geneticist went to the USSR in the late
>>
> 1930's,
>
>> but
>> I know of no collaborative
>> consequences. The topic of genetics was kind of life threatening in
>>
> the
>
>> USSR
>> at the time (in one
>> way) and in the US in another.
>>
>> Seems like cooperation really began after Stalin's death with visits
>> from
>> Luria, Sokolov and others to the
>> "west," delegations of Americans going to Russia, the start of the
>> post-doctoral exchange program circa
>> 1959. Herb Pick worked with Gippenreiter, I worked with Luria, Jim
>> Wertsch
>> worked with AA Leontiev,
>> and there was probably mutual influence in all these cases of some
>>
> sort.
>
>>
>> Very sketchy, I realize. I know there were more extended exchanges
>>
> from
>
>> 1970-1991 and then a lot of
>> different kinds of mutual interaction. But perhaps there are older and
>> deeper connections.
>>
>> Can anyone help on this topic?
>> mike
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