I'll be able to tell you about Vimeo tomorrow.
Lois
Lois Holzman, Director
East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
920 Broadway, 14th floor
New York NY 10010
tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
fax 718.797.3966
lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
<mailto:lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
www.performingtheworld.org <http://
www.performingtheworld.org> <http://loisholzman.net/>
loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.net/>
On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
Could you tell us about Vimeo, Lois? And Mike you will
report back what Bruce can tell us. What we need to know is:
* is it free and public domain?
* is it likely to remain free and open for a decade?
* can videos be uploaded by any self-registered user?
* can it store and stream hour-long videos reliably?
* is it under the sway of corporate interests?
* is additional tech support needed?
Andy
Lois Holzman wrote:
I haven't read the messages carefully so apologies if I am
off...
We use Vimeo as the place to see our videos. It works fine!
Lois Holzman, Director
East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
920 Broadway, 14th floor
New York NY 10010
tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
fax 718.797.3966
lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
<mailto:lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
<mailto:lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://
www.eastsideinstitute.org> <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
www.performingtheworld.org <http://
www.performingtheworld.org> <http://
www.performingtheworld.org> <http://loisholzman.net/>
loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.org> <http://
loisholzman.net/>
On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
This is not terribly good news.
I only ever watch youtube when people embed videos on
their FaceBook sites and this is pretty much what we'd be
doing.
The reasons I have not volunteered marxists.org <http://
marxists.org> <http://marxists.org> for video streaming is
that I fear it may place too much load on our server and
the name of the URL may offend some. On the first point, I
will speak to the tech guy and see if this is real.
Another point.
I was involved in setting up the lecture recording
facility at Melbourne University. One of the factors was
that we had to set up the streaming so that students had
to be registered on the relevant course before they could
view a lecture. An alternative was to prevent the video
being watched from outside the university, but this was
not good enough, because non-students could watch from
within the university.
Surprisingly, it was not the bean counters who insisted on
this, but the lecturers, and it was not so much their
"intellectual property" that they were worried about, but
their peers getting to watch their performance. It is one
thing to make a factual error in front of a group of
students who don't know any better and your words
disappear into the ether as soon as they are spoken, but
quite another if your colleagues can watch and re-watch it
around a cup of coffee and have a good laugh. Likewise, 30-
second ummmmms, scrambling around with your notes,
speaking in monotones, etc. A lecturer in finance said
that if the comments he made about named businesses to
illustrate his lectures were made public it could cause
disruption to the stock exchange and also get him sued.
So, the restriction of the videos turned out to be the /
sine qua non/ of streaming. Sorry to throw in a wobbly,
but we need to hear from some of our lecturers about this.
Andy
Steve Gabosch wrote:
On this question of downloading from YouTube - here are
some links with relevant information. Apparently, this
question of downloading from YouTube is in the process of
changing. YouTube is exploring how it can make money
allowing that.
First, on the YouTube terms and conditions. One relevant
condition is 5B, where it says: "You shall not copy or
download any User Submission unless you see a “download”
or similar link displayed by YouTube on the YouTube
Website for that User Submission."
http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
Some political videos began to get "download" buttons
about a year ago.
http://news.cnet.com/some-youtube-videos-get-download-
option/
Video ripping has become more difficult, and is obviously
not an option for us. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/
technology/2009/02/---mark-milian.html?cid=149000259
The really important thing from our point of view that is
changing is YouTube is starting to charge fees for that
download button. Note that, according to this next
article, some universities are using YouTube to provide
lectures free. But are they paying YouTube some kind of
fee for this service? And most important, does, or might
YouTube and Google, provide a free download option to non-
profit, educational efforts such as ours? http://
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/12/
AR2009021203239.html
All the above articles are about a year old, so there are
probably newer developments. I am just learning about
all this.
The above links are all from the current article on
YouTube in Wikipedia. A relevant passage from that
article is copied below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
Content accessibility
One of the key features of YouTube is the ability of
users to view its videos on web pages outside the site.
Each YouTube video is accompanied by a piece of HTML
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML>, which can be used to
embed it on a page outside the YouTube website. This
functionality is often used to embed YouTube videos in
social networking <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Social_networking> pages and blogs <http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog>.^[80] <http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-79>
YouTube does not usually offer a download link for its
videos, and intends that they are viewed through its
website interface.^[81] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
YouTube#cite_note-80> A small number of videos, such as
the weekly addresses by President Barack Obama <http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama>, can be downloaded as
MP4 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14> files.^
[82] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-81>
Numerous third-party web sites, applications and browser
plug-ins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_(computing)
> allow users to download YouTube videos.^[83] <http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-82> In February
2009, YouTube announced a test service, allowing some
partners to offer video downloads for free or for a fee
paid through Google Checkout <http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/Google_Checkout>.^[84] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
YouTube#cite_note-83>
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- Steve
On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Mabel Encinas wrote:
Yes, you can. I have done it.
Mabel
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From: laires11@gmail.com <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
<mailto:laires11@gmail.com> <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
To: ensemble2010@googlegroups.com
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Steve
I am not sure about that (but I think it´s possible).
Luísa
On 9 February 2010 11:43, Steve Gabosch
<stevegabosch99@gmail.com
<mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>
<mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>
<mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an interesting technical question about YouTube.
One can
of course get a streaming download from YouTube while
connected to
the internet, but can one also download the file of a
video so
they can show it later without being connected to the
internet?
- Steve
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