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One of the more interesting experiences I have had is when I was
preparing to teach a course on Visual/ Critical Literacy: Using Picture
Books, Comics, Graphic Novels, Anime, and Film in the Classroom. I sat
down with vol 1 of Bone and began to read. I ignored the pictures and
read the text. Zipping along, I realized (a) I didn't know what was
going on, and (b) I was bored. I went back and spent time with the
entire text and am now thoroughly addicted. It really depends on the way
the pictures are used... in tandem, as conjoined text; as the front
runner (as in children's writing where the pictures are the important
aspect a story); or an add-in (as in children's later writing when
pictures illustrate, but don't really tell us much... they fill up time
in a classroom... "go back and illustrate"). Some texts, like The
Invention of Hugo Cabret, weave words and pictures and you need to read
them both.
I highly recommend Molly Bang's theoretical work (sorry if I am
repeating anything already said, I'm jumping in)to really dig deeply
into the pictures; her children's books are interesting as well. Anthony
Browne has some pretty amazing children's books...they are edgy and
post-modern at times.
Meanwhile I have a doc student who is working on financial literacy...
there are some fundamental elements of a literacy that ring across
domains it seems... like discourse, eh?
~em
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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:05 PM
To: Jenna McWilliams
Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Fwd: Visual literacy? Surf an art museum - Lifestyle
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No doubt, Jenna. And forms like Youtube allow for users to be producers
in
a big way. But I see no need to knock museums and
the pleasures of "reading" paintings that have endured over a long time!
(The cost can be pretty steep these days though).
The "learning to see" theme runs through a lot of CHAT-related work, and
seems an endless source of insights.
One way I find that i can learn a lot about paintings is by doing
jig-saw
puzzles. Jackson Pollock seemed a total fraud to me until i had, with
lots
of friendly gossipy help, done a quite complex puzzle of one of his big
canvases. Now jig-saw puzzles require their own
form of visual literacy, but what was amazing (a Klimpt also provided a
similar experience) was that I actually began to see nuances in the
paintings that i had simply never seen before. And once seen, the
ability to
see more deeply, at least for the given painting (after all
generalization
of the skill is a huge undertaking!)
it sticks with you along with the belief of the possibility that, say,
a Russian 18th century icon may contain the potential for visual
experiences
that my naive eye, loving the combination of colors and shapes, could
not
see.
I hear what you are saying that I am seeing.
:-)
mike
PS. Have you met Etienne Pelaprat, a great grad student here at
UCSD, formerly in cogsci but completing degree in Comm, who has moved to
your fair city? If not, you should. He is rumored to be the sometime
savior
of xmca through his technical skills.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jenna McWilliams
<jenmcwil@umail.iu.edu>wrote:
> Mike, you write:
> "I managed a D+ in my one obligatory art producing class in college (a
work
> later exhibited, by some really odd
> error, in a show of student art which makes one wonder at the
judgments
> involved on either side of the
> process!). I am a hopeless plastic arts producer. But not entirely
> illiterate as a reader, finder of meanings."
>
> It's fair enough to argue that reading and writing are not equivalent
forms
> of literacy. But in this crazy multimodal culture of ours, where
reading and
> writing both require adeptness with design proficiencies (remember
that even
> the text we read on the screen is a digital product--the 'translation'
of
> code into a specifically designed visual format that we can
interpret), what
> we call "visual literacy" is increasingly an essential component of
BOTH
> reading and writing. Visual literacy goes far beyond what we learned
in art
> class--the color wheel and all that.
>
> In fact, it seems a little strange to link visual literacy to
museumgoing.
> I bombed art class right along with the best of them, and success in
art
> class still wouldn't have prepared me to engage in the sorts of
> communications platforms that have become the most significant message
> delivery systems. Indeed, design and visual literacy (or whatever you
want
> to call them) skills are so embedded in communication platforms that I
find
> myself making design decisions without a thought (as when I
re-formatted the
> chunk I quoted from the previous email in this thread, because when I
pasted
> it in the line breaks got all funky--distracting for the reader!). I
don't
> know if the fact that visual literacy (or whatever you want to call
it) is
> embedded within reading and writing literacy practices strengthens or
weaken
> the case for calling it a form of literacy; I only know that it's both
> important and different enough from reading and writing skills to
deserve
> its own label, if only so we know how to talk about it.
>
> visually,
> jenna
>
>
> ~~
>
> Jenna McWilliams
> Learning Sciences Program, Indiana University
> ~
> http://jennamcwilliams.blogspot.com
> http://remediatingassessment.blogspot.com
> ~
> jenmcwil@indiana.edu
> jennamcjenna@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:06 PM, mike cole wrote:
>
> The addition of production to definitions of literacy is always a
good
>> move
>> in my view, Jay. Reading is not equivalent to writing. In the case of
>> visual
>> literacy and museum art, it seems like what is being referred to is
the
>> reading half. At least i hope so. I managed a D+ in my one obligatory
art
>> producing class in college (a work later exhibited, by some really
odd
>> error, in a show of student art which makes one wonder at the
judgments
>> involved on either side of the
>> process!). I am a hopeless plastic arts producer. But not entirely
>> illiterate as a reader, finder of meanings.
>>
>> There is, a few blocks from you apartment, a show at the SD Museum of
>> Contemporary Art by Tera Donavan. I think you will find it as
fascinating
>> as
>> I did. I plan to take the family during their visit. Donovan take
everyday
>> objects (tar paper, straws, cups, and more) and creates installations
with
>> thousand of only one object aggregated in the most fantastic ways.
She
>> states her goal as wanting to explore the properties of objects seens
as
>> parts of very large populations rather than as individual objects.
The
>> effects she achieves are mind boggling with the play of light and
texture
>> over surface sufficient to reorder our perceptions in ways we could
never
>> anticipate.Again, art as tertiary artifact, re-admired.
>>
>> Since you have written more on time scales, I'll stay away from the
topic
>> in
>> general; we have agreed too often here to warrant repitition.
>> But quite specifically, our work in creating the "Fifth Dimension"
was to
>> be
>> able to study changes in a pre-pared system of activity over a long
time
>> period (from inception to death) at several scales of time. The idea
was
>> part of our interest in the failure of "successful" educational
>> innovations
>> to be sustained-- how did they die and why and how did their
implementers
>> enter in to and respond to the process. Still wrestling with
analysis--
>> lots
>> of 5thD's were born and died but others keep being born. Some are,
today,
>> strikingly like their originals in the 1980's, others have morphed so
that
>> only a few features remain. The children participants, who are almost
>> impossible to track over time are now adults -- i sometime encounter
one
>> at
>> ucsd. The college participants are parents I sometimes hear from. All
>> recorded in their fieldnotes written at the time. I have some money
salted
>> away so that "when it dies" (or if i can manage to retire before
doing so
>> myself) I will have the full range of instances documented and a lot
of
>> the
>> data in digital form,
>> so that I can look at that object from both ends of its history. A
>> preliminary report is in the book, *The Fifth Dimension*.
>>
>> As to LCHC, that is another matter. It seems to me a certainty that
it
>> will
>> die. It had a near-death experience a couple of years ago. As a way
of at
>> least marking its passing, a number of former and current members of
the
>> lab
>> are in the process of creating a book that traces its origins and the
many
>> offspring it has generated. THAT collective narrative I hope to live
long
>> enough to see come into being.
>>
>> Now if Yuan or anyone would like to see LCHC live, proposals for how
to
>> arrange that would of course be seriously entertained, and perhaps
maybe
>> even entertaining! I thought I saw a nibble at collaboration on
making
>> XMCA
>> a more powerful medium the other day, but it turned out to be a
mirage.
>> So
>> for now, we keep on keeping on.
>> mike
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Jay Lemke <jaylemke@umich.edu>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the link, Mike. Was nice to see someone in the mass
media,
>>> affiliated with a newspaper no less, arguing for critical visual
literacy
>>> to
>>> protect us from advertising!
>>>
>>> Of course that is an old idea in visual education circles, and it
can
>>> build
>>> on the widespread folk-skepticism toward advertising. Unfortunately
the
>>> more
>>> pernicious effects in ads are probably at subtler levels than what
basic
>>> visual literacy skills can foreground.
>>>
>>> "The ability to find meaning in images" is the definition of visual
>>> literacy used. That seems a little too basic. I think everyone finds
>>> meaning
>>> in images, with or without any literacy education. Maybe there is an
>>> implied
>>> emphasis on FIND, in the sense of digging below the surface/obvious,
>>> which
>>> would be better. But more recent ideas in the field put more
emphasis on
>>> visual production relative to interpretation, so I'd probably go
with a
>>> definition more like "the skills of making meaning with visual
resources,
>>> for your own purposes", and include in that the meaning-making we do
with
>>> others' images by way of interpretation, critique, etc.
>>>
>>> Have you ever noticed that when anyone, docent, tourguide, or just
me,
>>> speaks authoritatively about a painting in a museum, that many
bystanders
>>> seem to become interested in listening? People generally seem to
believe
>>> that art images, at least, require some professional interpretation
or
>>> benefit from having specialist knowledge (esp. historical). People
also
>>> seem
>>> to enjoy visual interpretation more than textual. Textual
interpretation
>>> is
>>> seen as superfluous, even obstructing to enjoyment of the work. No
one
>>> really reads literary criticism, or book reviews beyond the "it's
good"
>>> part. But people are fascinated by the exegesis of visual works. The
is
>>> one
>>> basis for the popularity of the DaVinci Code and similar popular
works.
>>>
>>> And there is not a word about visual interpretation skills in our
>>> standard
>>> curricula (meaning as practiced in schools, there are some nods in
the
>>> official standards).
>>>
>>>
>>> JAY.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jay Lemke
>>> Professor (Adjunct, 2009-2010)
>>> Educational Studies
>>> University of Michigan
>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>>> www.umich.edu/~jaylemke <http://www.umich.edu/%7Ejaylemke> <
>>> http://www.umich.edu/%7Ejaylemke>
>>>
>>>
>>> Visiting Scholar
>>> Laboratory for Comparative Human Communication
>>> University of California -- San Diego
>>> La Jolla, CA
>>> USA 92093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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