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Re: [xmca] Consciousness, Piaget

Got that sign usage. thanks tony

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:

> Mike, from a Peircean POV, any element of Thirdness is (as such) an element
> of ideality.
> A response in the Stimulus-Response model might seem unmediated, in the
> im-mediate event. From a Peircean POV,a Pavlovian response to a stimulus is
> a response to that stimulum AS a sign of (for example) food. Or -- the
> salivation is a response to food through the mediation of the bell (or
> whatever) as a sign of food. (This way of thinking is a source for the
> reflex-arch paper by Peirce's famous student, Dewey.)
> From a Peircean POV, the phototropic response of a plant to a light source
> is likewise a sign-mediated response, with the plant responding TO THE
> AVAILABLE LIGHT-ENERGY through the mediation of the sensed light-location as
> a sign of the energy. This is possible only through the regularity (or
> ideality) of the congruence of light source location and energy
> availability.
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, mike cole wrote:
>  Not sure what to make of the
>> phrase "there is ideality in any generalized sign (as in habituated
>> responses) since there are habituated responses which are not sign
>> mediated.
>> mike
>> (ex rat psychologist)
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