Hi Ulvi,
Have you looked at Wertsch's work on collective memory/ remembering
and
cultural narratives? I am no expert, but I found his presentation at
ISCAR quite compelling and it may speak to your concerns.
Another voice to consider is Hannah Arendt (The Human Condition,
perhaps).
Just some thoughts...
~em
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To: lchcmike@gmail.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] History, today, individual, action and no action
Sorry.
US Foriegn Policy was merely an example.
I intended to ask the fact that human mind seems to be much more
critical to
similar past events than to actual current ones and I wonder what
may be
the
reasons for this.
When I compare current responses of today's people to Hiroshima and
to
Baghdat, it seems to me that the one for the first is quite
ciritical,
towards a past event whereas most of humand minds are not so much
critical
to that extent for the second.
This brings to my mind an explanatory reason like: People are less
critical
to current facts which may invite them for opposing action...Past
events
are
frozen facts, not inviting people to change them...But current ones
invite
them to change, to action
Anyway, I will think more on this and then return back to the group
later
wit some better formulations of my questions...
Thanks
Ulvi
2009/9/16, mike coole <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
Too abstract for me, Ulvi. Are you referring to events like
discussion
of
learning sciences or American foreign policy in the last decade? And
if the
later, hard to see connection to academic concerns of xmca,
although I
could
surmise ways to tackle it.
Past events have ready formulated narratives while the present is a
contestation of them.
What do you have in mind?
mike
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM, ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have one question in my mind that I look for the answer and
intend
to
share:
People seem to be more critical towards facts, actions etc in
history,
let's
say, United States foreign policy...or let's say some "bad"
features
of
capitalism
But the same people seem less critical towards the current ones,
parallel
or
similar to the same fact...and tend to see these facts unavoidable,
as
facts
to be admitted as facts etc
What may be the reasons for this?
May one of these the fact that, historical one is frozen and needs
no
change
but if you are critical towards a current one, then you should move
against
it, you should enter into action against it...and this is the
reason
why,
people do not criticize the current one, because they do not want
to
act
against it...they know the fact is "bad" , they admit it, but they
perhaps
try to rationalize their position etc?
(It is obvious that that inaction is not merely inaction, it means
also
less
consciousness in some respects...In some respects, because "action"
is
not
always filled with a better consciousness...e.g. actions of masses
at a
historical moment may be with or without more or les consciousness)
Thanks
Ulvi
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