Re: [xmca] Fwd: A personal experience with John McCain

From: Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon who-is-at>
Date: Thu Oct 02 2008 - 09:16:41 PDT

Golly, it would be good for all of us, if one of us could do the detective
work. Especially as it is so awful. How could we ascertain this? I think we
should put an embargo on the story until further notice.

2008/10/2 Olga Vasquez <>

> Wait!
> From what I hear Mary Kay Gamel did not write this letter and it may just
> be a figment
> of someone's twisted mind but do send your reiki energy to us all to make
> the right decision.
> Olga
> Good heavens--even worse than our politicians. I shall be sending all my
>> Reiki energy to Obama, from the other side of the world.
>> 2008/10/2 Shirley Franklin <>
>> Perhaps some of you may have read this disgusting true story?
>>> Shirley
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> sage:
>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>> From: "" <>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October, 2008 7:30:27
>>>>> Subject: A personal experience with John McCain
>>>>> Subject: A Personal Experience of McCain
>>>>> Mary Kay Gamel is a literature and classics professor at UCSC. She
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> asking
>>>>>>> people to send the letter she wrote far and wide.
>>>>>>> It was just before John McCain's last run at the
>>>>>>> presidential nomination in 2000 that my husband and I
>>>>>>> vacationed in Turtle Island in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> children, including Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).
>>>>>>> It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to
>>>>>>> be in close quarters with John McCain for almost a week,
>>>>>>> since Turtle Island has a small number of bungalows and their
>>>>>>> focus on communal meals force all vacationers who are there at the
>>>>>>> same time to get to know each other intimately.
>>>>>>> He arrived at our first group meal and started reading
>>>>>>> quotes from a pile of William Faulkner books with a forest
>>>>>>> of Post-Its sticking out of them. As an English Literature
>>>>>>> major myself, my first thought was "if he likes this so much, why
>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>> he memorized any of this yet?" I soon realized that McCain
>>>>>>> actually thought we had come on vacation to be a volunteer audience
>>>>>>> for his
>>>>>>> "readings" which then became a regular part of each meal. Out of
>>>>>>> politeness, none of the vacationers initially protested at this
>>>>>>> intrusion into
>>>>>>> their blissful holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the readings continued day after day. Unfortunately this was not
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> only contribution to our
>>>>>>> mealtime entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about
>>>>>>> how Indo-Chine women had the best figures and that our
>>>>>>> American corn-fed women just couldn't meet up to this standard. He
>>>>>>> also made
>>>>>>> it a point that all of us should stop Cindy from having dessert
>>>>>>> as her weight was too high and made a few comments to Amy, the 2 5
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> old wife of the honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should
>>>>>> >>>>> eat less as she needed to lose weight.
>>>>>>> McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was
>>>>>>> so great that David the American economist had to move his
>>>>>>> Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept
>>>>>>> aggressively flirting with and touching her. Needless to say I was
>>>>>>> irritated
>>>>>>> at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other
>>>>>>> women, but
>>>>>>> decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a
>>>>>>> handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> his response was shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea
>>>>>>> - I didn't have anything to do with it. She just went and
>>>>>>> adopted this thing without even asking me.
>>>>>>> You can't imagine how people stare when I
>>>>>>> wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona .
>>>>>>> No, it wasn't m y idea at all."
>>>>>>> I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately
>>>>>>> one day he engaged me in a political discussion which soon
>>>>>>> got us on the topic of the active US bombing of Iraq at that
>>>>>>> time. I was shocked when he said, "If I was in charge, I would
>>>>>> >>>>> nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson". Given McCain's personal
>>> experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> of view. I commented on the tragic consequences of the nuclear
>>>>>>> attacks
>>>>>>> on Japan
>>>>>>> during WWII -- but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to
>>>>>>> say that if it was up to him he would have dropped many more
>>>>>>> nuclear bombs on Japan. I rapidly extricated myself from this
>>>>>>> conversation
>>>>>>> as I could tell that his experience being tortured as a POW
>>>>>>> didn't seem to have mellowed out his perspective, but rather had
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> more aggressive and vengeful towards the world.
>>>>>>> My final encounter with McCain was on the morning
>>>>>>> that he was leaving Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily
>>>>>>> eating pancakes when McCain arrived and
>>>>>>> told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes
>>>>>>> because she needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at
>>>>>>> this abusive comment. I felt fiercely protective of Amy and
>>>>>>> immediately turned to McCain and
>>>>>>> told him to leave her alone. He became
>>>>>>> very angry and abusive towards me,
>>>>>>> and said, "Don't you know who I am."
>>>>>>> I looked him in the face and said,
>>>>>>> "Yes, you are the biggest asshole I
>>>>>>> have ever met" and headed back to my cabin.
>>>>>>> I am happy to say that later that day when I
>>>>>>> arrived at lunch I was given a standing ovation by
>>>>>>> all the guests for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
>>>>>>> Although I have shared my McCain
>>>>>>> story informally with friends, this is
>>>>>>> the first time I am making this public. I almost did so in 2000,
>>>>>>> when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican
>>>>>>> nomination, but it soon becam e apparent that George Bush
>>>>>>> was the shoo-in candidate and so
>>>>>>> I did not act then. However, now that
>>>>>>> there is a very real possibility
>>>>>>> that McCain could be elected as our
>>>>>>> next president, I feel it is my duty
>>>>>>> as an American citizen to share this story.
>>>>>>> I can't imagine a more scary outcome for America than that this
>>>>>>> abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation. I have observed
>>>>>>> him in intimate surroundings as he really is, not how the
>>>>>>> media portrays him to be. If his
>>>>>>> attitudes toward women and his treatment of his
>>>>>>> own family are even a small indicator of his real
>>>>>>> personality, then I shudder to think
>>>>>>> what will happen to America were he
>>>>>>> to be elected as our President.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mary-Kay Gamel
>>>>>>> Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts
>>>>>>> Cowell College
>>>>>>> University of California, Santa Cruz
>>>>>>> Santa Cruz, California 95064
>>>>>>> 831-459-2381
>>>>>>> (office); 831-429-8803
>>>>>>> (home)&nbs p;<>
>>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>>>> !
>>>>> ------ End of Forwarded Message
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