Re: [xmca] Re: My ISCAR

Talking about Mrs Palin and Russia take a minute to read this
wonderful New Yorker account of an interview where she indeed talks
about the proximity of Alaska with Russia. I am sure under a Palin VP
Arctic relationships will certainly improve, given global warming
caused erosion of the northern ice.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/hendrikhertzberg/2008/09/foreign-countri.html

On Sep 26, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:

> I'm guessing that he feels Palin's glare from across the Straits.
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> Peter Smagorinsky
>
> The University of Georgia
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> 125 Aderhold Hall
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> Athens, GA 30602
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> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
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> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
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> From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:22 PM
> To: Peter Smagorinsky
> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: My ISCAR
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>
>
> Medvedev is saying that Russia is SURROUNDED by enemies. Think about
> that
> and extent to which it could be almost, if not quite, literally
> true given the behavior of its neighbors in the past year. Parsining
> interactions is tough going!!
>
>
> mike
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Right--Jim also made this point--that they view Georgia as a nation
> in which
> the US can establish a presence and thus a threat, and so they must
> protect
> the territory.
>
>
> Peter Smagorinsky
> The University of Georgia
> 125 Aderhold Hall
> Athens, GA 30602
> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Mike Cole
>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:02 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: My ISCAR
>
> Note how close the Russian narrative of Hiroshima.Nagasaki is to the
> current rhetoric of that country's leaders in the current crisis
> involving
> Georgia, Ukraine, etc. Deep historical threads.
> mike
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> As is usually the case at conferences, my most memorable occasions
>> were
>> informal--talking with people during breaks, over cafeteria food,
>> and at a
>> couple of restaurants. Far too many to mention here (though the
>> night out
>> with Emily and Co. from Penn State was at the top of my food chain).
>>
>> One provocative moment: At one of Jim Wertsch's sessions, he was
>> talking
>> about the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki from the US and
>> Russian
>> perspectives. I'd never even considered the USSR as a reason for
>> bombing
>> Japan (and don't intend to start a discussion here of the morality
>> of that
>> decision). Anyhow, Jim pointed out that the official narrative
>> accepted in
>> the US, embedded in our national narrative, was that we were
>> bombing Japan
>> because we were protecting democracy from incursion, saving lives
>> with one
>> mass destruction, and doing our role to move the world into a
>> newer, freer
>> era of prosperity. But the USSR saw it very differently. Their
>> national
>> narrative positions themselves as the defenders of their nation
>> against
>> aggressive and hostile forces from without--Napoleon, Hitler, etc.
>> They
> saw
>> the bombing of Japan as a statement by the US that we were not
>> averse to
>> using WMDs on Japan, so we would not hesitate to use them against the
> USSR.
>>
>> It had never occurred to me that the bombing of Japan might at
>> least in
>> part
>> be a statement to the Soviets, but it does make sense to at least
>> try to
>> see
>> things from their perspective. A surprising, yet provocative,
>> insight from
>> the conference that still has me thinking. Peter
>>
>> Peter Smagorinsky
>> The University of Georgia
>> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> Athens, GA 30602
>> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
>> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Cole
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:31 PM
>> To: Duvall, Emily
>> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
>> Subject: [xmca] Re: My ISCAR
>>
>> Wow--- What an experience. And we did not even say hello. argh!
>>
>> I think Tatiana's work is great too and she has promised a paper
>> for MCA>
>>
>> Could you unpack the following?:
>>
>> Views of culture influence psychological phenomenon
>> Cultural psychology should be focused on explanation
>> Ratner - negative impact of ZPD
>>
>> Never saw Carl either. One of so many.
>> mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's hard to pull the week together, to be honest.
>>> So many people, so many sessions, so little sleep... but here goes
>>> some
>>> stream of consciousness... perhaps it will encourage others to
>>> talk in
>>> more depth.
>>> At some point I would like to talk a bit more about the work that
>>> Tatiana shared with me once I have worked with it a bit.
>>> Truly a gift... thank you for the intro Elina!
>>> ~ Em
>>>
>>> My ISCAR
>>>
>>> Monica, my intrepid and talented grad student, and I find the
>>> elevator
>>> to room 4412.
>>> We don't have to walk up four flights!
>>> We think it's four flights...
>>> Home for the next week... :-)
>>>
>>> There's Ana...time for wining, dining and...
>>> CHAT-ting!
>>> We see Pooh on the way... they call it Pooh, Ana says..
>>> It's a pile of rocks. We have a landmark.
>>> The Bear.
>>>
>>> Monday I sleep and grade my online class;
>>> I thought I'd get out to go kayaking
>>> I say hi to Gordon - I make it out to get a Latte; soy.
>>> Monica was off to CHADOC.
>>> We're up half the night talking.
>>>
>>> Tuesday it begins in earnest.
>>> The importance, eh?
>>>
>>> Drawing,
>>> Drawing pictures, arrows, squiggles...
>>>
>>> Primacy of the word in psychological development
>>> 'Seeds of communication' as mother and child smile at each other
>>> Readiness to take culture in... Zinchenko
>>> Sensation/acts integrated through affect...
>>>
>>> John-Steiner - the complementarity of cognition/affect
>>> Dialectical relation.
>>> Cole's brain and culture co-construct
>>> What about schooling constructing, schooling as culture
>>> Consequences of schooling
>>> Neurophysiological
>>>
>>> Smagorinsky et al...
>>> Arts in core curriculum
>>> Role of affect in writing...
>>> Mahn: Writing Protocol
>>> Writing to Learn
>>> Dialogic interaction, negotiation of meaning, analysis of text
>>> Promotion of conceptual thinking
>>> Allowing students to access the concept in their own language
>>>
>>> ...ways in, eh?
>>>
>>> Putting more faces to names on xmca... Preiss, Connery...
>>>
>>> Tuesday night, I head out to sing-along Mama Mia with an old
>>> friend from
>>> high school...
>>> I skip Carl's fireside chat...
>>> Later Carl asks me if I prefer singing to Marx?
>>> 12 years of choir notwithstanding, I think I'm better off with Marx.
>>>
>>> Views of culture influence psychological phenomenon
>>> Cultural psychology should be focused on explanation
>>> Ratner - negative impact of ZPD
>>> Think about the etiquette of race,
>>> Explain the psychology, the perpetuation of oppression
>>>
>>> National narrative: Wertsch and the cultural tools that we don't
>>> know
>>> are there
>>> How they shape... narrative templates, like a schematic
>>> Narrative power rather than accuracy, but grounded in historical
>>> episodes
>>> Example:
>>> 1. Setting: Russia is peaceful
>>> 2. Trouble: wonton attack - want to destroy Russian
>>> 3. Russia: almost destroyed
>>> 4. Russian heroism & sacrifice = victory
>>> Ethnocentric narcissism...
>>>
>>> Symbolic tools may not help if you don't know how to use them
>>> Kozulin - must introduce them!
>>> Mediated learning experience: immigrant/minority students learning
>>> new
>>> ways
>>> Rigorous mathematical thinking example
>>> Foster internalization of psychological tools
>>> The factory metaphor...
>>>
>>> USD
>>> CHAT-ting!
>>> Taking turns in the Israeli army and the ease of switching between
>>> English and Afrikaans...
>>> The trials of living in England if you're not English...
>>> You know, you just can't get a glass of Riesling in California.
>>>
>>> It's Thursday so it must be Dynamic Assessment!
>>> And it's a Penn State reunion Thorne...
>>> And then Poehner and Lantolf...
>>> My introduction to Vygotsky.
>>> Iddings talks DA... high stakes testing for ESL students
>>> Poehner talks DA...understanding the object by changing it
>>> Roth talks DA... problematizing... is there something that can be
>>> assessed
>>> Atencio talks DA... try to bring in authentic/world... not just an
>>> analytic lens
>>>
>>> Dinner out - we miss the aquarium.
>>> CHAT-ting!
>>> Peter and Leo, Jim and Holbrook, Steve and Matt, and...
>>> Monica and I are up late again, talking, CHAT-ting.
>>> She has to listen to my talk rehearsal.
>>> I should have taped it.
>>>
>>> I change it at the last minute...
>>>
>>> It's Friday....and MORE DA!
>>> Some issues with scheduling...
>>> Kozulin talks DA...cognitive modifiability with adults, new
>>> immigrants,
>>> changing futures
>>> I talk DA... high stakes testing of reading for children with
>>> learning
>>> disabilities
>>> Robbins talks DA... zones of potential development
>>> ... some issues with technology.... timing
>>> Kotik finds us a room and we gather to talk DA for hours more...
>>> Lantolf and Poehner talk about their training cd...
>>>
>>> The Friday night party...
>>> Wolfgang tells me about cortisol levels and ADHD...
>>> Elina introduces me to Tatiana
>>> My Saturday is planned...
>>> International song fest after the conga...
>>>
>>> Akhutina and I spend the morning together.
>>> She graciously takes me through her work.
>>> And I see where I need to go next. This is my high point.
>>> I see where I have stopped too soon, both theoretically and
>>> practically.
>>> It's the impetus I need to move forward.
>>> The School of Attention materials are so much deeper than our
>>> western
>>> ways.
>>> I see how much time we waste.
>>> How superficial the content in our schools seems.
>>> Neuropsychology... Isn't this close to where we began with Cole?
>>>
>>> My head and heart are full.
>>> But I manage to catch Rogoff so my cup runnethed over (my grammar
>>> overrunneth)
>>> Did you get the handouts Monica?
>>> And the ethnography...
>>> Hey, there we are, University of Idaho!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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