Re: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish

Michael is on top of the ISI issue, David. We simply have to wait until
Sept.
mike

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM, David Preiss <davidpreiss@uc.cl> wrote:

> I certainly agree, Mike. But my experience with journals indexed in ISI
> suggests that has a larger variety than expected by a distant view (so not
> just existing mainstream) and that MCA deserves to be part of that garden
> variety. Indeed, it might be a very good idea to take a closer look to the
> ISI list just to find brother and sister journals to MCA such as Discourse
> processes or Cultural Psychology. Any others?
>
> On Jul 4, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
>
> The BIG down side is total assimilation to the existing mainstream, David.
>
> I personally suggest a multi-valenced approach that includes ISI highly
> rated journals and
> deviant ones, like MCA.
>
> Michael left out part of the GOOD news. MCA has a rating that should win
> it
> ISI inclusion by year's end.
>
> I assume the PLAY article for discussion made it to everyone. People
> reading
> this weekend?
> mike
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, David Preiss <davidpreiss@uc.cl> wrote:
>
> As a young scholar, I totally ENDORSE this petition, Michael. Indeed, I
> have always thought that MCA`s influence and intellectual appeal is not
> commensurate to its lack of inclusion in ISI. Alas, ISI! No chance but to
> play according to its rules, I guess.
> david
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Mike and I have had a conversation off line. He suggested I should write
> to the list. It concerns the increasing pressure on all of us to publish in
> "good" journals, and universities increasingly use as a measure the
> presence
> and impact factor ranking in ISI Web of Science as a measure. This is
> especially true for Asian countries and other countries. With my graduate
> students, we always make selections based on this criterion, because I want
> them to be successful in their home countries and careers.
>
> In the sciences, this has long been common practice; now the social
> sciences are swept up by the same trend. I have recently been bombarded
> by
> publishers whose journals have increased in their impact factor.
> Furthermore, there are a number of companies that make the rankings of
> their
> journal a key bit of information on the website.
>
> (Some of) You may be asking what this has to do with you. Well, since I
> have been editing journals (besides MCA, I also do CULTURAL STUDIES OF
> SCIENCE EDUCATION and FQS: FORUM QUALITATIVE SOCIAL RESEARCH), I have been
> asked by new faculty members about rejection rates, rankings, etc. And I
> have been asked by department heads and deans as well.
>
> Some may decide to opt out, which would come with dire consequences for
> many, who might find themselves in the position of not being tenured or
> promoted.
>
> Unfortunately, we (MCA) currently are not in ISI Web of Science, which
> places those of you who publish in the journal in an unfortunate situation.
>
> One of the ways in which you, the community as a whole can be proactive
> producing the conditions that would convince ISI to make MCA one of the
> listed and ranked journals is to make it a habit to cite RECENT articles
> you
> have been reading in MCA. Here is why:
>
> The impact factor for 2007 (which is what was made available just a few
> days ago), for example, is calculated using the following formula:
>
> Number of citations in 2007 referencing articles
> published in 2005 and 2006
> impact factor =
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Number of citable articles published
> in 2005 and 2006
>
> (They may not take into account self-citation, but I am not sure)
>
> So the impact factor is 1 when a journal had 60 references from the
> outside while having published 60 articles (over 2005 and 2006).
>
> You see, as a community, you can help yourself by citing MCA work in other
> journals. With high rankings, MCA will be included in ISI and then you and
> your peers will be rated higher at your institution because it is part of
> ISI.
>
> Have a nice weekend all of you,
> Sincerely,
> Michael
>
>
> Wolff-Michael Roth, Editor-in-Chief
> MIND, CULTURE, AND ACTIVITY
> Email: mroth@uvic.ca
> Journal: http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/1074-9039
> Submissions: http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/mca
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> Santiago, Chile
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