Re: [xmca] Progress Pubishers

This raises broader issues Mike. For example, the Melbourne University
library has only 4 of the 6 volumes of LSV's CW, nothing at all by AN
Leontyev or AA Leontyev. Both the CPs who used to sell Ilyenkov,
Meshcheyarkov, Mikhailov and so on 20 years ago are now closed. Let alone
these less famous, now-living Russian writers. But there is a huge market
for this literature, but its availability is very poor.

IMHO, a good steady income good be generated for our dear colleagues in
Russia by them providing hard copies of books form the Soviet era and
identifying the author and/or family to whom rights ought to accrue, and
working as translators putting Russian works into as many foreign languages
as possible, where Progress editions are not yet available.

IMHO, a big US or UK publisher should be engaged to produce the output in
nice big expensive hardbacks to be marketed to libraries, with agreement
that a certain percentage of the output be distributed freely in electronic
form. In my opinion, free distribution of electronic texts will not only
ensure access to a wider audience but will help build the reputation of
writers and generate more sales to libraries. Campus-wide subscriptions to
electronic copies of the whole set would be saleable too. I guess we need a
person in publishing to manage it. Perhaps someone already sustained on an
academic salary somewhere?

I am an opponent of intellectual property, but while our comrades in Russia
are so poor, it is hardly fair to deny them this possible income.

Andy
At 04:28 PM 30/11/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>This summary fills in what I surmised as a plausible script, Andy.
>In this case, I think it would be an act of friendship to contact Vasiliuk
>and see if he would like to see his book published in the US in English
>from the Progress version. It would relatively easy to get an e-book
>published
>that might bring him some royalties. And if he is the same boat as most
>Russian academic psychologists, he could probably use the money.
>
>I will try to contact him through a friend but others here may be able to do
>so more directly. In which case, whoever, please do. Por favor and
>pozhalusta also.
>mike
>
>On Nov 30, 2007 2:55 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> > Paul, we have to deal with the issue of Progress Publishers a great deal
> > on
> > the MIA, and here is how we see it.
> > So far as we know, Progress Publishers in the former USSR has
> > transmogrified into a very low-grade outfit that doesn't care a fig for
> > its
> > old Marxist works. Also, since before 1991, Progress was the official
> > publishing house of the Soviet state, under international copyright law,
> > what a state publishes is by definition in the public domain. Now, I
> > understand that there have been counter claims coming from other former
> > state publishers, with for example, Che Guevara's daughter claiming and
> > enforcing her rights in her father's writings published by a state which
> > militantly opposed intellectual property, but so far as I know, PP cannot
> > make any claim on material publishes during the Soviet era. The moral
> > rights of living authors and the claims of their family estates is
> > something else. I am not a lawyer and I don't know if these claims have
> > been challenged, but I suspect that no-one on this list or the MIA would
> > stand against the claims of the authors or their families.
> >
> > But as well, Progress Publishers worked in collaboration with
> > International
> > Publishers in the USA and Lawrence and Wishart in the UK and many other
> > such companies in capitalist countries around the world, companies which
> > were in the private domain then and remain so, and insofar as they could
> > prove that they were the creators of any content in works published in
> > collaboration with Progress, they could claim intellectual property. In
> > this context, International Publishers, the publishing arms of the
> > Communist Party of the USA, claims intellectual property in the
> > Marx-Engels
> > Collected Works, jointly with L&W.
> >
> > The whole area is very messy and so far as I know untested in court
> > (thank
> > goodness). If people want to retain these works in the public domain or
> > secure the rights of the families, then making new translations and adding
> > editorial content and re-issuing them via a big bourgeois publisher in the
> > US or Europe would be a good move. On the other hand, only the authors, if
> > they are alive, or the moral claims of their families if they are not,
> > stand in the way of distributing USSR-era material not owned by L&W or IP.
> >
> > Andy
> > At 01:33 PM 30/11/2007 -0800, you wrote:
> > >mike.
> > >
> > > your comment on Progress Publishers implies that it still exists in
> > > some form. Would you expand a bit on that?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hmmmm.Time to make a pdf copy? Can someone contact Vasiliuk to see
> > what his
> > >preferences are?
> > >Progress publishers exists no more, at least not its old form and the
> > >English translation may belong to him.
> > >Or nobody.
> > >
> > >Separately. there was a special issue of Soviet Psychology on Lydia
> > >Bozhovich a decade or more ago.
> > >mike
> > >
> > >On Nov 30, 2007 6:00 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually I went to buy Psychology of Experiencing today but all 3 are
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > stock, so we English-only readers will have to be patient. p
> > > >
> > > > Peter Smagorinsky
> > > > The University of Georgia
> > > > 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > > Athens, GA 30602
> > > > smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> > > > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Mike Cole
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:43 PM
> > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > > Subject: Re: [xmca] L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie (Vasilyuk,
> > > > Psikhologiia
> > > > perezhivaniia, M., MGU, 1984)
> > > >
> > > > If you can get "Psychology of experiencing" and you are interested in
> > the
> > > > concept of
> > > > perezhivanie (and you do not read Russian!) follow Peter's links.
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 28, 2007 9:12 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > thanks Anton--my grandparents were from Gomel, Belarus, but my
> > Russian
> > > > is
> > > > > limited to "nyet" and "dasvadanya"
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Smagorinsky
> > > > > The University of Georgia
> > > > > 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > > > Athens, GA 30602
> > > > > smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> > > > > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of Anton Yasnitsky
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:58 AM
> > > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > > > Subject: RE: [xmca] L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie (Vasilyuk,
> > > > > Psikhologiia
> > > > > perezhivaniia, M., MGU, 1984)
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure if you, Peter, can read Russian, - so, I don't know if
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > of any help to you, -
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, Vasilyuk's book is available in the original online FREE ---
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g. here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.psylib.ukrweb.net/books/vasif01/index.htm or here:
> > > > > http://www.koob.ru/vasiluk_f_e/psihologiya_perejivaniya or even
> > here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ladoshki.com/10765_books_%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> %81%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5
> > > > > %D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Btw, Vasilyuk is a "he" :) -- cf.:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://files.ladoshki.com/data/bookcatalog/Vasilyuk_Fedor_Efimovich/pics/F.V
> > > > > asilyuk%20-%20Psihologiya%20perezhivaniya.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As I understand it, Cuban-born, Brazil-abode?
> > > > > > I don't have Vasiliuk, but s/he's available on the cheap:
> > > > > > http://www.ecampus.com/book/5010005042
> > > > > > http://www.textbookx.com/detail-book-5010005042.html
> > > > > > http://biggerbooks.com/bk_detail.aspx?isbn=5010005042
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter Smagorinsky
> > > > > > The University of Georgia
> > > > > > 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > > > > Athens, GA 30602
> > > > > > smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> > > > > > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Mike Cole
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:51 AM
> > > > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [xmca] L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Peter-- Thanks for that reminder. Fernando Rey is currently
> > working
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > Brazilia I believe.
> > > > > > You have Vasiliuk, *The psychology of experiencing"
> > (perezhivanie)??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 3:34 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > While trying to learn more about L.I. Bozhovich and
> > perezhivanie, I
> > > > > > came
> > > > > > > across a paper at www.fae.unicamp.br/br2000/trabs/1760.doc that
> > > > > > concerns
> > > > > > > Vygotsky and personality-thought others might be interested (and
> > my
> > > > > > > apologies if it's already been posted and I missed it-I've only
> > had
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > skim xmca posts of late). Peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter Smagorinsky
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The University of Georgia
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 125 Aderhold Hall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Athens, GA 30602
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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